Bush does something right

Promoted by Brendan

Crossposted from DKos

Is it possible? After six years, two wars, hundreds of billions of wasted dollars, untold damage to the environment, dozens of extremist judges, one outed CIA agent, 3,000 dead soldiers, God only knows how many dead Iraqis, billions in giveaways to oil and pharmaceutical companies, and more lies than a super computer could keep track of?

Is it just possible that someone with a record like that might have actually slipped up and suggested something positive? Something downright progressive?

Oh, it's not anything earth-changing like bringing the war to an end -- but Bush is actually proposing something that would cost his rich friend millions and milions of dollars and curb one of the most outrageous corporate welfare programs ever devised.

WASHINGTON - Thousands of the nation’s richest farmers would lose their government subsidies under a Bush administration plan to curb farm spending.

Proposals released Wednesday would reduce federal agriculture spending by $18 billion over the next five years. They represent President Bush’s vision of a new farm bill: a system of supports that would protect farm income and crop prices and keep food prices stable.

Anyone making more than $200,000 in adjusted gross income would be cut off from farm payments, under Bush’s plan. At that level, “you’re the richest guy in the county,” Deputy Agriculture Secretary Chuck Conner said.

Imagine that. Rich people -- like the kind who write big campaign contribution checks and call themselves Bush Pioneers -- getting the shaft from George W. Bush.

This proposal is just one aspect of the new Farm Bill -- the exercise that Congress goes through every five years to dole out billions in subsidies and other assistance -- mostly to the growers of only five crops: cotton, corn, wheat, soybeans and rice.

The overall Farm Bill that Bush is proposing leaves much to be desired. And for the sake of brevity, I'm not going into other aspects of the bill. But, as the L.A. Times opines: "it is a major improvement over the trade-distorting porkapalooza that was the 2002 farm bill."

That 2002 Farm Bill was, indeed, a giant, colossal, stupendous waste of money that actually helped accelerate the loss of family farms in America. It included a pathetic provision that prohibited payments to anyone with an annual income of more than $2.5 million.

It is that provision that the new proposed Farm Bill would change -- by lowering the cap on payments to $200,000. So, how many rich folks does this affect?

These producers, about 80,000 in all, are among the top 2.3 percent of taxpayers, officials said. It’s hard to know just who would be cut off, said Ken Cook, president of Environmental Working Group, which tracks subsidies. Cook said many high-profile recipients, such as media mogul and CNN founder Ted Turner, probably were cut off in 2002, when Congress imposed the current $2.5 million income cap.

“You end up eliminating absentee owners who have a lot of income they’re trying to shelter in agriculture,” Cook said. “It could be a small-town lawyer or a business executive in Memphis, Tenn., who’s put some money into a cotton plantation.”

The Environmental Working Group, BTW, has an excellent database that is easy to use to look up who in your state or congressional district has been getting farm subsidies.

The Bush proposal also would eliminate what is called the three-entity rule, which allows farmers to collect payments for up to three different farm operations.

And not only that -- but the same day that Agriculture Secretary Mike Johanns unveiled the new Farm Bill, he traveled to Tunica, Mississippi, to promote it.

Agriculture Secretary Mike Johanns wasn’t exactly stepping into the lions’ den, but it was close. A few hours after he announced that USDA was proposing to end farm payments for anyone with an adjusted gross income of more than $200,000 and eliminate the three-entity rule, Johanns traveled to a meeting with farmers in Tunica, Miss.

Tunica County is the home of Dick Flowers, the cotton, rice and soybean farmer who became famous on “60 Minutes” for receiving millions of dollars in government subsidies in the late 1990s.

Now that's a serious in-your-face to a wealthy Mississippi Delta planter. What in God's name could Secretary Johanns be thinking?!?! Is he on drugs? Is Johanns really a DNC mole planted in the Bush Cabinet?

And what does he mean by making Marxist statements like this:

We also had a woman by the name of Kristina in Virginia, and she said, "Farm bill policies are supposed to preserve family farms." How often have you heard that? She went on to say, "But they disproportionately channel money to big agribusiness." We listened to Kristina.

And this:

We have a proposal on payment limits that would end our commodity program subsidies to producers who are among the top 2.3 percent of Americans who file federal tax returns. Basically, the way this works is, we're taking a different approach to payment limits than what you've seen in the past. We are basically saying this: if you have an Adjusted Gross Income of $200,000 or more, your participation in the commodity programs under Title I of the Farm Bill would cease. That is, in the top 2.3 percent of Americans if you look at the statistics of the Internal Revenue Service.

We also go on to say that we are proposing to eliminate the three-entity rule. Let me explain to you how that will work. This is direct attribution, is what we call it. What it means is this. You can receive payments from any number of entities, but you are limited by two things. The first thing will be the $200,000 AGI, putting you in the top 2.3 percent of American tax-filers. And the next one will be a payment of $360,000.

Some of you will ask the obvious question, "Well, gosh Mike, how many people are getting money who are in that range of Adjusted Gross Income, because that is way up there." Well, it will save about $1.5 billion. It's a significant amount of money. It is a significant amount of money.

And just who are some of the folks who have been raking it in under the Farm Bills?

From 1995-2002, John Hancock Life Insurance received $2.6 million, Chevron got $427,000, agri-giant Archer Daniels Midland got $84,000, former Sen. Mike DeWine of Ohio got $176,000, Sen. Chuck Grassley of Iowa got $162,000, Sen. Richard Lugar of Indiana got $86K, Sen. Sam Brownback of Kansas got $28,000, NBA player Scottie Pippen got $210,000, Ted Turner got $206,000, Sam Donaldson got $84,000, Ken Lay of Enron infamy got $18,000 and baseball pitcher Kevin Appier got $4,000.

This is just a guess, but I figure none of those folks needed farm subsidies. I'll bet none of their children would have gone without supper if they had been cut off from their farm subsidies.

The biggest chunk of farm subsidies doesn't go to Ma and Pa Kettle trying to scrape together a decent living on the plot that great granddad farmed. It goes to huge agribusinesses that keep getting bigger and bigger.

Large farms are grabbing all of the new subsidy dollars because the federal government is helping them to buy out small farms. Specifically, large farms are using their massive federal subsidies to purchase small farms and consolidate the agriculture industry. As they buy up smaller farms, not only are these large farms able to become more profitable by capitalizing further on economies of scale, but they also become eligible for even more federal subsidies--which they can then use to buy even more small farms.

The result is a "plantation effect" that has already affected America's rice farms, three-quarters of which have been bought out and converted into tenant farms.8 Other farms growing wheat, corn, cotton, and soybeans are tending in the same direction. Consolidation is the main reason that the number of farms has decreased from 7 million to 2 million (just 400,000 of which are full-time farms) since 1935, while the average farm size has increased from 150 acres to more than 500 acres over the same period.

Is that what is motivating Johanns? Is this an example of a Bush crony actually listening to the problems of the little people?

Perhaps.

Or maybe there is another explanation. Maybe Bush signed off on this thing without bothering to read it (surprise, surprise). And maybe no one at the White House wanted to tell him about this $200,000 limit provision because they knew his head would explode.

So it's entirely possible -- likely I'd guess -- that Bush is going to hear from these wealthy subsidy recipients, who will remind him about all the checks they wrote to the Bush/Cheney campaign.

And then that will be the end of that.

But it was a nice thought.

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I'm sure this will

become a topic of conversation here in Arkansas. I expect Sens. Mark Pryor and Blanche Lincoln to come out with statements about this one. Farm subsidies are their favorite topic. I'm thinking that there is some sort of political calculation hidden in this already. Not sure what it is at this point though.

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this sounds like a good idea

though ultimately of course unfair - because for it to be fair we'd phase out all subsidies, even to the little guys. That is not terribly feasible so the proposal is as good as it can be.

I'd follow it up with cutting corporate subsidies in all other areas. Sink or swim on your own you stupid capitalist b*tches.

"To discuss evil in a manner implying neutrality, is to sanction it." AR

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I'll give you credit for your principle.

Because that is more honorable and honest than many.

And if this suggestion ever makes it through both Houses of Congress, I'd be shocked.

My cynical self thought that maybe this was some type of a gesture on the Administration's behalf to appear to suggest the right thing, knowing full well, it would never come to pass in Congress. But that's my cynical self.

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Subsidies make sense - to a degree.

Consider that agriculture requires an enormous amount of capitol, mostly in terms of land and time: producers can't adjust at the speed of the market. One bad crop can sink a farm, and since I'd consider it in the public's best interest to eat on occasion, the production of food is one of those areas that we have an interest in stabilizing against capricious circumstances.

Naturally, any system can be overdone to absurdity and/or gamed by people who know the loopholes. This is an example of both. A farm raking in nearly $2 million in profits could be badly affected by a year's drought, but won't go under, whereas a smaller farm will. Lowering the cap is a good thing.

(for an example of absurdity: have y'all read Catch-22? The section on subsidies for alfalfa farms is classic.)

And I had no idea Mike DeWine and Scotty Pippen were sharing time over at Green Acres. Learn something new every day.

Saint, n. A dead sinner revised and edited. - Ambrose Bierce

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I never read

Catch-22 though I always wanted to - I like to catch up on all the classics.

I agree with you overall on propping up the small producers because I don't see any other way in the way our society works these days. It's not the natural way things should work imo, but I don't have a better solution.

"To discuss evil in a manner implying neutrality, is to sanction it." AR

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Here's the quote,

from the chapter about Major Major Major Major:

[Major Major's father's] specialty was alfalfa, and he made a good thing out of not growing any. The government paid him well for every bushel of alfalfa he did not grow. The more alfalfa he did not grow, the more money the government gave him, and he spent every penny he didn't earn on new land to increase the amount of alfalfa he did not produce. Major Major's father worked without rest at not growing alfalfa. On long winter evenings he remained indoors and did not mend harness, and he sprang out of bed at the crack of noon every day just to make certain that the chores would not be done. He invested in land wisely and soon was not growing more alfalfa than any other man in the county.

Saint, n. A dead sinner revised and edited. - Ambrose Bierce

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heh

that is a funny quote :)

[edit] Actually my liberal coworker told me that Catch 22 sucked... Well maybe not in those precise words but he said it stretched one joke for far too long and was not a good book.

"To discuss evil in a manner implying neutrality, is to sanction it." AR

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I'd grant you

that what's usually cited as its greatest strength (satirizing the absurdity of war) really isn't. But it's a fantastic work of narrative - both in terms of imaginative plot(lessness?) and its arrangement - and full of more memorable characters than some authors manage in a lifetime. So definitely worth the read, even if the satire part gets overrated.

Saint, n. A dead sinner revised and edited. - Ambrose Bierce

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Don't take anyones word for it...

If your lazy, rent the movie.

But the book is superior.

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How sad,

it could be that the edition he read didn't come with the laugh track.

Sic semper tyrannis

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So is there a catch?

On it's face, the cutoff point seems reasonable and this action is overdue. But the President and his group are not that politically clueless. There must be some expectation of revision, or as you suggest, complete withdrawal.

Thank you for the link to who's getting what. I have cousins who still work their parent's and grandparent's farms (as independents, not conglomerates) and it was interesting to see what subsidies they've been receiving. Quite interesting. Might make for good discussion at the next family reunion ;} The only problem I see on the face of it is that many do work multiple farms, because in each generation there are fewer who are willing to continue, so the land is rented to the remaining farmers in the cousin group. The alternative to them working that land would be to sell the land, probably to a conglomerate.

"Perplexity is the beginning of knowledge" -- Kahlil Gibran

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Another proposal in the new Farm Bill

provides financial assistance to first-time farmers, hoping to increase the number of people involved in farming -- so that perhaps people who want or need to sell their farms don't have to sell to a conglomerate.

qui tacet consentire

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Farming is hard work

and unless you grew up doing it, you have no idea how hard it is. Folks going into farming with no prior exposure are in for an unpleasant surprise. Both my parents grew up on farms, but after being hailed out they chose a different path. Thank God for that. The few times my aunts and uncles had me out the fields chopping cotton (hoeing weeds) were enough for me to count my lucky stars. Never too fond of the hog butchering either, or the resulting sausage making. Stinks to high heaven.

My point is that if the farms are not passed on to other farmers or kids of farmers, it's not especially likely IMHO that the farms will survive independent of agribusiness. Farm work makes law school look easy.

"Perplexity is the beginning of knowledge" -- Kahlil Gibran

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My parents bought a chicken farm

We had 24,000 layers. Had to collect eggs twice a day. We had a flush system to wash the manure into oxidation ponds, but you still had to rake and shovel the manure to get it to flow. You do get used to the smell after a while and it's fabulous fertilizer.

The worst part was removing the dead chickens, especially after the other chickens in the cage had stomped the body of the dead one down into the wire of the cage. In the middle of summer we'd sometimes lose 70, 80 chickens a day. I'd haul all the dead chickens to a pit at the back of the farm and toss them in. Nasty, nasty, nasty.

We also grew hydroponic tomatoes, which was actually fun. Much cleaner than chickens.

qui tacet consentire

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In the south, there are some chicken farms that now

have a few alligators out in back. They get all the dead chickens & the farmer gets to sell a couple of alligator hides & meat once in a while. Sound like a win/win to me.

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It's win-win

as long as you have enough dead chickens to keep them happy. :)

qui tacet consentire

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Subsidies continues.

Subsidies aren't always on the surface either.

Here in California, we live in a state that in a natural setting would be mostly classified as arid to desert. It only rains in the winter here. Prior to dams, that water either fell as snow in the hills, or ran to the oceans with seasonal flooding.

Now we have dams and canal highways. Water. Water is parceled out to farmers here on the basis of the acerage they farm. They get a pre-set amount for whatever the size of the land & if they need more water, they pay a higher rate for the additional water. ALL of that water is heavily subsidized. NONE of that water is delivered to the farmers at anything close to market rate. California does the same deal with Industry. They pay a higher rate than the farmers, but still significantly below what it costs to provide. The only group that actually pay the full cost of the water distribution? We the people, the residents, of course!

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Your price may be going up

due to Colorado discussing increased water rights on the Western slope. If we keep more water, that means less downhill for you.

Water is one of the scarcest resources in the west. It is unfortunate that some places (Arizona--specifically Las Vegas) treat it with such a cavalier and wasteful attitude.

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That's true. The Imperial Valley & Metro

have been using more water than our state is allotted for years. Now that AZ & NV have booming subdivisions, they want the water they weren't using. There goes the price of lettuce.

But I live in del norte. My water comes out of Yosemite/Hetch Hechy. Which has it's own questionable merits. Lately the Sierra Club and the SF Chronicle have been trying to tear down the dam (that serves the entire SF & Peninsula with water). I'm an environmentalist but I think they have their heads up their collective asses. There's no way they could ever replace that water with ANY other sources. Maybe they all want to drink cool fresh ocean salt water.

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Beautiful area

I have friends from Humboldt County (Eureka and Arcata) which is to your south. I love Colorado, but that area is very tempting.

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