IT'S SARAH PALIN FROM ALASKA AS JOHN McCAINS VP!
I have it from several sources inside the California GOP that it is indeed Tim Pawlenty who's name will be put forth into nomination as the Republican Party's Vice Presidential nominee in 2008!
I wish I was wrong, I wanted Mitt Romney, but Tim is a solid conservative and a good choice for JM considering the attacks the left would have brought against Mitt.
OH YEAH! Even better, Sarah Palin is a solid conservative, an incredibly popular Governor, an effective reformer, and the perfect pick for the ticket!
JOHN McCAIN - YOU MAGNIFICENT BASTARD!
Submitted by Red_Wing on Thu, 2008-08-28 18:48
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Is this
Is this http://www.redstate.com/diaries/redstate/2008/aug/28/mccains-vice-presid...
your "inside source", or just a coincidence?
Also, on Intrade, Pawlenty
Also, on Intrade, Pawlenty has shot up to 75 while Romney has plummeted to 15. They say that those who know don't tell and those who tell don't really know, but I'll bet some who know do some inside trading!
I saw that after I got off the phone... No Romney ;-( n/t
"A society that puts equality before freedom will have neither. A society that puts freedom before equality will get a high degree of both." ~ Milton Friedman
Oh see...
...no, I am active in the party in CA, and was talking this afternoon with someone in the southern CA regional campaign office, so without giving them away just yet, suffice it to say they were saying it very clearly, without saying it, like it was a done deal.
But Eric talks to the right people too, so that seals the deal I'm sure!
Thanks for the tip though, I hadn't got over there today.
"A society that puts equality before freedom will have neither. A society that puts freedom before equality will get a high degree of both." ~ Milton Friedman
538 says otherwise
http://www.fivethirtyeight.com/2008/08/source-its-not-pawlenty.html
I suppose we'll see who's right in the next few hours.
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Sounds pretty definite from all the chatter
and makes a lot of sense.
Come, my friends. 'Tis not too late to seek a newer world -- Tennyson
I can see major pluses and
I can see major pluses and minuses to picking Romney, but overall I thought he'd be a smart pick.
Having said that, if it turns out that Romney doesn't get it, I'll feel good about the fact that people won't learn the lesson that being a completely shameless phony with regard to supposed convictions on important matters doesn't pay off big.
Hmm, new rumors are that it is not Pawlenty, but also
not Romney. Maybe Palin:
Come, my friends. 'Tis not too late to seek a newer world -- Tennyson
That's a winning move
If he wants to win, he takes Palin. That's obvious PUMA bait.
Palin kind of foils McCain's attack on Obama's inexperience, but that isn't about ready to stop him. If anyone asks him about it he can always tell people he was a POW.
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Oops, or not
Funny, Pawlenty said he's going to the state fair in Minnesota.
This is turning into the Thomas Crown Affair. Gotta give the McCain campaign credit for playing the news cycle, keeping everyone off balance and fueling speculation.
Come, my friends. 'Tis not too late to seek a newer world -- Tennyson
Indeed
McCain's campaign team has done a very good job playing the media like a fiddle and generating lots of interest in his VP pick.
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At first this was amusing....
to an extent.
Playing so many games, and head fakes it's crossing the line to show a certain disdain or respect for the media and public opinion.
It is the economy, stupid.
Of course it is Miss L...
...cough it up now...he said he'd announce at noon. Its the media thats whipping up that hairball caught in your throat.
Not to mention your "Leader" couldn't pull his game plan off and LOL text'd at 3am...
"A society that puts equality before freedom will have neither. A society that puts freedom before equality will get a high degree of both." ~ Milton Friedman
Head fakes and false leaks
That about describes the Republican party!
And look how well it worked on you! Ha!
Oops you were fooled again.
Some of us are tired of that game.
It is the economy, stupid.
Turn off your TV and computer then for 2 hours... n/t
"A society that puts equality before freedom will have neither. A society that puts freedom before equality will get a high degree of both." ~ Milton Friedman
Further it's disrespectful to
those that aren't being chosen, like Romney and Pawlenty.
It is crossing the line from amusing to disrespectful and he could be alienating further those that spoke out for him as potential VP's and are now being publically embarrassed.
It is the economy, stupid.
ZZZzzzz..... n/t
"A society that puts equality before freedom will have neither. A society that puts freedom before equality will get a high degree of both." ~ Milton Friedman
I see you and
you pal McCain share the same juevenille responses to serious matters.
I'll grant that you are both good at childish mockery.
It is the economy, stupid.
Come on guys
You're both just wasting electrons.
If you two can't get along just don't reply to each other's posts.
Think of this as a kind request, not anything official.
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Nah, you're just an easy target! :P
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;-) ...n/t
"A society that puts equality before freedom will have neither. A society that puts freedom before equality will get a high degree of both." ~ Milton Friedman
Odd
That means you think politicians have respect for the media or public opinion.
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The buzz now is that it is indeed Palin
Should be a very interesting VP debate.
Good choice for McCain I think.
Come, my friends. 'Tis not too late to seek a newer world -- Tennyson
I was wanting Romney - Palin in the primary... n/t
"A society that puts equality before freedom will have neither. A society that puts freedom before equality will get a high degree of both." ~ Milton Friedman
I like Palin
First, she's not afraid to go after her own party when cleaning house.
Second, she's a MILF-and-a-half.
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Ya, Looks like I was wrong...
...I just hope JM doesn't belly flop this one!
"A society that puts equality before freedom will have neither. A society that puts freedom before equality will get a high degree of both." ~ Milton Friedman
I might have missed this
but what's your take on Ridge?
Come, my friends. 'Tis not too late to seek a newer world -- Tennyson
I think you win if its Ridge... n/t
"A society that puts equality before freedom will have neither. A society that puts freedom before equality will get a high degree of both." ~ Milton Friedman
Works for me =)
He's support McCain's theme of national security and probably appeal to moderates, but I gather the base would be less than enthusiastic.
Who knows though, you might still get your wish and get Romney.
Come, my friends. 'Tis not too late to seek a newer world -- Tennyson
I'm afraid its Meg Whitman from ebay! Horrible! n/t
"A society that puts equality before freedom will have neither. A society that puts freedom before equality will get a high degree of both." ~ Milton Friedman
Better than Fiorina would have been
since Whitman did fantastic with eBay. From browsing Wikipedia it seems like she also gives a lot of $$ to charity.
I don't know anything about her beyond that, though. It would be a little odd for McCain to pick someone with so little political experience, wouldn't it?
Come, my friends. 'Tis not too late to seek a newer world -- Tennyson
Commander in Cheif threashold???
It is the economy, stupid.
Don't trust wikipedia, it is infested with moonbats. :)
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Is one of them
named GoRight?
(hope you are doing well inspite of being checkmated)
It is the economy, stupid.
Moonbat = left wing, Wingnut = right wing.
What do you mean checkmated?
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Is there such a thing
as a moonbat rightwinger! I think that is a perfect description of the potential VP Joe Lieberman.
I was just guessing on the checkmate drama that is GoRight vs the Wiki! :)
It is the economy, stupid.
Well, they did impose an inconsequential ban of sorts.
I have been banned from editing pages related to William M. Connolley, not to be confused with the user William M. Connolley (who is the same person). I was trying to get criticism of Mr. Connolley added to his biography based on an Op/Ed that was written about him and others specifically related to the global warming debate and how they control the wikipedia pages on that topic and I was being particularly pointy about it so the ban isn't really unfair. In actuality, though, it isn't much of a ban since it really only keeps me from writing neutral or good things about him because anything negative is already effectively banned because of his friends there.
See Wikipropaganda
. This is an article by Lawrence Solomon which was originally published in the National Post of Canada (where he is a regular contributor) but it was ultimately picked up by the National Review Online and CBS News. It actually does a good job of describing the reality of the wikipedia global warming coverage.
The whole experience was enlightening, actually. I am certain that the fact that they were unable to completely ban me really annoys those who supported such a thing. He he. If you are interested you can read the rather lengthy proceeding here
.
My primary antagonist is a long time editor
, who is now maintaining an attack page 
on me 
(which is against policy). This latter point is something I will sit on until an opportune moment presents itself. In the mean time I'll just let him compile a list of our interactions and when the time is right I'll use that very list against him not only because the list itself violates policy but because it will provide a nice repository of links from which to illustrate his deceptions. :)
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Wow, thats so funny, good luck with it! ...n/t
"A society that puts equality before freedom will have neither. A society that puts freedom before equality will get a high degree of both." ~ Milton Friedman
Welcome back
I'm a moderator now, so you have to treat me with the utmost respect!
Re your comment, I suppose it's a good thing we have you to keep those moonbats in line!
Also, on a personal note, if you have any information or good leads on the job market in "your part of the world", I'd be much obliged. Please reply off-thread:
nathan[dot]stine[at]gmail.com
TIA.
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Congrats on the moderator thing, may I kiss your ring? :)
There are too many moonbats to keep up with, still someone has to try. :)
I see Red_Wing has been keeping you all in-line on this end. We'll have to tag team you every once in a while. He he.
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Forina or Palin will go...
...a long way to sealing this deal, either one will be awesome!
But it looks like Palin! Woo Hoo!
Whitman's a loser in politics. Suffers from the no charisma dilema.
But McCain and his camp are brilliant! He has successfully done what Obama could not and kept his pick secret, and has in essence turned the news cycle in his favor.
"A society that puts equality before freedom will have neither. A society that puts freedom before equality will get a high degree of both." ~ Milton Friedman
Hmmm.
Yea, McCain is known for his charisma. (gak)
Let's keep things on the up and up here. :)
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OMG Thank You!!
What a relief to have you to straighten RW out. I am eternally grateful.
He's been insufferable! ;-)
It is the economy, stupid.
OMG... LOL!
What, he just said McCain lacks that quality too, I agreed and pointed out how that makes Whitman all the more less desirable.
OMG! ROTF...
"A society that puts equality before freedom will have neither. A society that puts freedom before equality will get a high degree of both." ~ Milton Friedman
Well point taken on the charisma, but...
...that makes it all the more relevant at this juncture, right! See what I'm saying?
Anyway, its Palin and I am stoked!
We own this election buddy, barring any unforeseen derangement Miss Liberty and her co-conspirators at chaos central have cooking up.... LOL!
"A society that puts equality before freedom will have neither. A society that puts freedom before equality will get a high degree of both." ~ Milton Friedman
GR doesn't like McCain
Our friend GR might have a red bar, but he's already committed to vote for Barr. Ok, that sounds lame .... bar ... Barr...whatever.
We'll just have to see if he keeps his promise.
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Well, we'll have to see what we can do to change that...
...a vote for Barr or Baldwin is a Ross Perot model to lose an election, it is also a vote for BO and liberal insanity, so we'll see.
"A society that puts equality before freedom will have neither. A society that puts freedom before equality will get a high degree of both." ~ Milton Friedman
Your vote is irrelevant
Statistically, speaking
.
Voting is more about fuzzy feelings and clan behavior than anything else. If GR votes for Barr instead of McCain, McCain will have one less vote. Seeing as one vote has not changed the outcome of a Presidential election ever, it is very likely that GR's vote (as well as mine and especially yours because you're a Californian) is infinitesimally meaningful (or infinitely meaningless) for purposes of changing the outcome of an election.
Voting is much more about participating in the process than actually making a significant impact in the election. If you want to do the latter, you need to be working for the campaign of your choice.
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On the other hand ...
voting for the third party candidate amplifies the impact of my vote! My one vote is an insignificant percentage of the total votes for McCain, but it would be a much higher percentage of the votes for a third party candidate like Barr!
So by switching, I am not hurting McCain much but I will be helping Barr a lot! :)
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Maybe, but then we leave the country to liberal asult. n/t
"A society that puts equality before freedom will have neither. A society that puts freedom before equality will get a high degree of both." ~ Milton Friedman
Do it.
I just may myself. Being in PA, I think the state is going to Obama anyway and my one vote won't decide anything.
The seduction of putting too much weight on one's vote must be kept in check.
What an odd thought? n/t
"A society that puts equality before freedom will have neither. A society that puts freedom before equality will get a high degree of both." ~ Milton Friedman
Aren't you supposed to be a libertarian?
The question is, why would you be voting for Obama?
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Because neither candidate is libertarian
thus, it becomes a matter of priorities and, in light of the democratic process, what it takes to turn ideas into legislation from the President's vantage point.
Trust me, it's not tantalizing either way between D and R.
Playing devil's advocate
A good reason to vote for McCain if you're a libertarian is divided government. Obama isn't going to veto much coming out of an increasingly Democratic Congress. McCain sure will.
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It may be that way for the first 2 years
But then the GOP will win back a lot of seats in 2010 after the inevitable disillusionment sets in.
Then again, Obama may break ranks.
You must have forgot
my Judges diary (or don't agree with my findings).
There are more Republicans up for re-election in 2010 than Democrats. With the Democrats likely to have no less than 54 seats (they'll kick Lieberman out of the caucus any time now) going into that election, they'd have to do a piss-poor job to get below 50.
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A lot can happen in two years
Never underestimate how bad the parties can be. :)
And never underestimate how parties out of power quickly find their voice and say the right things.
And never underestimate how the public starts pointing fingers at the Prez.
Once the Dems have the WH, they are responsible for everything including grandma getting hit by car crossing main st.
I expect the GOP to gain back seats in 2010.
I do... n/t
"A society that puts equality before freedom will have neither. A society that puts freedom before equality will get a high degree of both." ~ Milton Friedman
I actually like Barr. He is a friend of the 2nd Amendment.
And while I have to agree that a vote for Barr would be rather like a vote for Ross Perot (only in the sense that is steals votes for the other candidates), I have succumbed to this logic far too often in the past. McCain, Obama, Hillary? They're all the same to me so I don't have anything to loose by being a Maverick this time around! Besides, McCain should respect my Maverickness. (Note my tag line!) :)
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Barr has the freedom to say what he feels now.
I respect what he says a lot more now. He speaks from his head & heart as well as his gut.
There's another good reason to vote for McCain. ;-) n/t
"A society that puts equality before freedom will have neither. A society that puts freedom before equality will get a high degree of both." ~ Milton Friedman
Not stealing at all
"Stealing" assumes that your vote already belonged to a candidate before you cast it. That doesn't jive with the rugged individualism and personal sovereignty talk I hear from most Republicans.
If you want to go down that road, voting for a minor party candidate or a candidate who "can't win" is more like staying home than voting for the other guy.
I make the case that if voting for someone who can't win is "wasting your vote", than all the Republicans in California, New York, Vermont, Illinois, Rhode Island, etc., etc. are wasting their vote on McCain. The same goes for Democrats in Utah, Texas, Oklahoma, Kansas...you get my drift.
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Hey, GR
Long time no see.
I agree on Barr. Not so sure he would be stealing votes, though. He has a unique combination of views that have no voice. He is naturally my favorite candidate of the three. I teeter back and forth between voting for Obama and just saying "The hell with it!" and voting for Barr with a clear conscience.
I truly do not think he only represents 3-5% of vote. I think it's quite a bit more but people feel inclined to "make their vote count"...thus creating a self-fulfilled prophecy.
Well, if you are leaning towards Obama (only you know why) ...
and I would have to wear a gas mask to vote for McCain, we can make a pact to both vote for Barr and thus not affect the outcome of the over-all election, right? We both get to make a statement and not feel guilty over-all! :)
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It's not a bad idea.
If people ask me, Barr is the only I can say I voted for with pride and a smile.
Then I can make a few bucks and sell bumper stickers that say:
"Don't blame me, I voted for Barr" ;)
I send you a freebie! :)
Go for Barr
If I voted for Badnarik in 2004 in Ohio, you can vote for Barr in Pennsylvania. I didn't even like Badnarik all that much, but he was the best candidate on the ballot who was against the war.
PA is a blue state this election. Obama's going to win Philly and Pittsburgh by huge margins.
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Yeah, I know.
It'll be an election day decision and a rather innocuous one at that.
It's too bad we don't do ordered voting: Choice 1, 2 and 3.
In this case, it would be Barr, Obama, McCain.
If I do vote Barr, I'll be voting for all three parties on my ballot (local, state and federal) that day. ;)
Not many people would do that.
I'd go with that.
Out here in CA I don't think my vote will matter too much.
Well come now...
Obama vs McCain...no difference?
"A society that puts equality before freedom will have neither. A society that puts freedom before equality will get a high degree of both." ~ Milton Friedman
It's true RW
In the final analysis, we're talking about tweaks and degrees for the most part. The democratic process tempers large shifts anyway.
The real difference may be on foreign policy. And even that is a bit of a gamble. Would Obama truly be all that different from MCain? I'd like to think so, but sometimes I wonder.
Oh brother, nonsense, I'm watching JM, talk 2 U later... n/t
"A society that puts equality before freedom will have neither. A society that puts freedom before equality will get a high degree of both." ~ Milton Friedman
Yea, I was going to concede the national defense point ...
as being a difference. But as you point out, what is Obama going to do? I mean really do? No President is going to sell us out for real. Campaign promises are one thing, but actually pulling out of Iraq and leaving everything in its current state? I'm not so sure. There's real danger in just pulling out.
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There's a real danger with that cat, period! n/t
"A society that puts equality before freedom will have neither. A society that puts freedom before equality will get a high degree of both." ~ Milton Friedman
Oh, I'm not saying that there isn't danger with Obama.
I'm just saying that there is just as much danger with McCain. Not in the same areas, mind you, but just as dangerous over-all. That's why I consider it a crap shoot as to who is better. On domestic social issues they might as well be the same person. McCain has proven time and again that he is liberal on such things.
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Got an idea: If you voted for Obama
...that would teach these RINO liberals a lesson once and for all! I think the conservative values of the Republican Party are more important than some throwaway vote for Barr that makes you feel good...
skymutt: wise and powerful... enlightened...
But would that be the Maverick thing to do? Really?
:)
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IT'S OFFICIAL - IT'S PALIN!!!!!! n/t
"A society that puts equality before freedom will have neither. A society that puts freedom before equality will get a high degree of both." ~ Milton Friedman
McCain's standard of Commander in Chief threshold
not met.
It is the economy, stupid.
I thought it was offiical that it was Pawlenty?
I'll wait until McCain announces in Dayton.
If it is Palin, that is a bold pick. If I was a Republican strategist, that's who I would tell him to pick.
I never broke the law; I am the law! --
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It's Palin Stiner... n/t
"A society that puts equality before freedom will have neither. A society that puts freedom before equality will get a high degree of both." ~ Milton Friedman