Population, Sustainability, the Environment and Resources.

Based on several thoughtful exchanges in previous threads, I instantly thought of Spiritual Lefty while reading this piece by Don Boudreaux in which he comments on some points made by Jeffery Sachs in his latest book, Common Wealth , in which Sachs discusses some of his signature issues like world poverty and sustainability.

Boudreaux cites this quote from page 23 of Sachs's book:

I will argue at some length that this is too many people to absorb safely, especially since most of the population increase is going to occur in today’s poorest countries. We should be aiming….to stabilize the world’s population at 8 billion by mid-century.

As I read that quote, I could already see where Boudreaux was going with his argument and I can't say I blame him. Here's the gist of it:

First, he has obvious problems with the arbitrary number "8 billion". He considers it worthless...as do I.

Boudreaux:

He could have dreamed it up in his sleep, or taken it from a multi-year study conducted by a lavishly funded committee made up of the world's most accomplished economists, demographers, environmentalists, statisticians, physicians, and other Very Smart Experts....There is simply no way to know how many persons the earth can "support" in the year 2050 (or any other year, for that matter).

Agreed. In a way, it's well-meaning arrogance...but arrogance nonetheless...to claim to know such things. Sachs is using obsolete information to make such an assertion....and by "obsolete", I mean "from the present" in the context of some 40 years from now. I'd be curious to see what Sachs would said 40 years ago. I'll bet he'd have been dead wrong about almost everything of import.

But here's the crux of Boudreaux's critic, in which he puts to succinct words, an excellent example of my variation of Hayek's Fatal Conceit:

A much deeper problem with Sachs's eight-billion number is that, in calculating it, there is no way to predict how human creativity will alter the world during the next 42 years. It's ludicrous to pretend that we can know now what, say, the average MPG will be for internal-combustion engines in 2050. Hell, we don't even know if automobiles and lawnmowers and the like will still use such engines then.

Bingo. Excellent. The hubris of pretending to know future circumstances based on limited current knowledge and making assertions therefrom.

Boudreaux challenges that hubris of pretending to know by asking us to think from 1966 knowledge about our modern world and inconceivable innovations enterprising people have made and built upon. Aside from all the high tech stuff (which does indeed affect our resources), he cites a favorite example of mine: Aluminum cans...which use perhaps an 1/8 (?) of he metal used as late as the 70s. Any predictions back then about future Aluminum use are useless for this simple reason.

Here's the bottom line that Sachs needs to appreciate:

There is no way -- literally, no way -- to know how technology and social institutions will change between now and 2050. Given this impossibility -- and given the fact that we can nevertheless predict with confidence that technology will advance and that social institutions will change -- to assert that "optimal" population in the year 2050 will be eight-billion persons is ludicrous in the extreme. It's faux-science, and deserves only ridicule.

I concur...to say the least. Human History's biggest positive lesson for the future at any given time (I say "positive" because there's plenty of negative lessons about war, oppression and misery by the state) is that human creativity, innovation and adaptation are constants whose effects on future circumstances, though unknowable in terms of detail, are certain and always around the next corner.

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mid-term economic growth is predictable

I think you're complicating the issue by focusing on the details (innovations, etc) -- when we aggregate all of the things that increase wealth, we can make a fairly good prediction of economic growth rates. I think this is called "the law of large numbers" in statistics.

As a layman, I figure we can make a fairly confident estimate that over the next 40 years, economic growth will have an average between 3-7% annually. This could be used to make estimates of global carrying capacity (at whatever standard of living is deemed appropriate).

Anyway, the entire idea of a global carrying capacity is ridiculous, especially since resource distribution is so uneven (both at societial and individual levels). It's also quite arrogant (socially, not just intellectually) for someone to suggest a target global population -- as if that is anyone's decision to make.

Birth control can be a powerful tool for getting out of poverty, but I don't see any reason to extrapolate from family planning to global population planning. The politicians should focus on managing shared resources an dpublic goods--let individuals manage their reproductive choices.

"You have seen how a man was made a slave; you shall see how a slave was made a man." --Frederick Douglas

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that remark

was made also made in the comment thread at Cafe Hayek:

the entire idea of a global carrying capacity is ridiculous, especially since resource distribution is so uneven (both at societial and individual levels). It's also quite arrogant (socially, not just intellectually) for someone to suggest a target global population -- as if that is anyone's decision to make.

Very true. And the more you think about it, the more arrogant and silly it sounds. Will we end up with a world council on population management or something? :)

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Really?

Anyway, the entire idea of a global carrying capacity is ridiculous

You doubt the idea that there is a maximum number of people that the Earth's resources can support? That number doesn't need to be static (in fact, it isn't), but it does exist. I can guarantee you that we don't have the resources to feed, clothe, and shelter 50 trillion people, for instance. Scientific progress in agriculture will allow for the Earth to support more people, but there is an upper bound.

Otherwise, I don't have any objections to your post.

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Technological Singularities and Libertarianism...

These days, I pretty much hang my hat on "technological singularities" serving as the catalyst for ultimately ending the State. I won't go into that here, but you can get somewhat of a taste by reading my recent comment on a Kevin Carson post at The Art of the Possible .

Statist enforcement of "sustainability" ideology is the ultimate arch-enemy in my paradigm. Then again, as more or less a converted agorist, it probably won't matter in the end. In a rapid nanotechnological singularity, the counter-economy will supplant the hopelessly outmatched enforcement mechanisms of the State. The State becomes irrelevant as an enforcement mechanism and ceases to exist. This would also be predictable from both De Jasay's Rational Choice framework or, alternatively, from a Libertarian class Theory framework.

However, the question that would arise is whether in a rapid nanotechnological singularity, the ability of counter-economy to rapidly evolve enforcement mechanisms to internalize potentially unimaginable externality costs. This is where my political hat and scientific hat intersects. Scientifically, I ascribe to the anthropic principle. In the weak version, there is an implication that we are at the precipice of a doomsday scenario, that is not unentirely unconvincing. Oh well, "say la vee," I suppose.

To those who respond with "The State, The State, Regulation, Regulation," LOL...Blah, Blah, Blah.... Even when it's been relevant, the State has never been an enforcement mechanism to internalize externalities of the market. In fact, quite the opposite, it's always been a monopolist enforcer of market externalities.

I've a suggestion to keep you all occupied.
Learn to swim.
Moms gonna fix it all soon.
Moms comin round to put it back the way it ought to be.

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Interesting stuff....

Reminds me of one of those spy movies where you never know which team to assign which agent.

Milton Friedman is our greatest statist. James Hoffa is our greatest Libertarian (to the extent that he would engage in non-coercive activities).

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Punctuated Agora

is what I'm calling it for now.

p.s

i'm not sure I would call Friedman our greatest statist :)

I've a suggestion to keep you all occupied.
Learn to swim.
Moms gonna fix it all soon.
Moms comin round to put it back the way it ought to be.

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Optimal population

A population of 8 billion may or may not be "optimal" in the year 2050. I agree that there is no real way of knowing. What does "optimal" really mean anyway? I think it is pretty clear that today, the population is above "optimal". It seems to me that there wouldn't be tens of thousands of deaths by starvation every day if we were currently at an optimal population. We wouldn't be losing tens of thousands of acres of forest every day if we were at an optimal population. We wouldn't have billions of people without access to clean drinking water if we were at an optimal population.

I have no problem whatsoever with "aiming to stabilize the world's population." No need to have any target number in mind. But providing access to birth control, teaching family planning, championing women's rights - all of these things can both reduce population growth and increase the standard of living without any kind of draconian population control methods. So sure, you can argue that Sachs is pulling a number out of a hat, but I don't see that as any kind of stinging critique of the larger point.

Yes, human creativity may very well solve many of our current problems. But as the population grows, the problems get worse, and yet new problems will crop up. Solutions may be always "just around the next corner," but until we deal with the root causes, there will always be more problems around that corner as well.

Wouldn't it be better, more "optimal" you could say, if all this human creativity, innovation and adaptation that is enabling a greater quantity of life could instead be used to create a greater quality of life?

We are the environment. There is no distinction. What we do to the earth we do to ourselves. —David Suzuki

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Starvation

isn't a matter of not having enough food. It's a matter of getting the food to the right places. I'd bet with the amount of food Americans waste every year, we could feed Africa many times over.

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I don't disagree

But that is just another one of the problems that needs to be solved through human creativity and technology, and it is not solved yet. That being the case, it is currently a matter of having more people than can be sustained by the amount of food available in a given area.

We are the environment. There is no distinction. What we do to the earth we do to ourselves. —David Suzuki

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keep in mind, stinerman

that the allocation of food supply has everything to do with the local political and economic conditions. There is no concerted outside force that keeps Africa poor.

The problem is internal...the enemy is within. It is the people who are products of the poor conditions, social institutions and the cultural, social and economic conditions brought on by these aforementioned conditions and institutions as well as the decisions of those who came before them and so on. Many of these poor countries...well most if not all...are crippled by corruption, strife, dictators and civil war that usurp and maintain a state of despair in their countries.

In the absence of these problems, conditions would improve and demand for goods would drive resources to these countries....as it as done in countries like China.

Now, the adaptation to tightening supply is something that must be allowed to come to pass...and it will.

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Yes

Isn't that what I just said?

Now, the adaptation to tightening supply is something that must be allowed to come to pass...and it will.

I hope that isn't a euphemism for "since food is more scarce people will just have to eat less". Supply and demand shouldn't dictate necessities.

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Sustainability: it just hit the fan

Okay, I'm getting scared that the shit is hitting the fan as we speak. There are food riots in Bangledesh and Haiti . This follows on an incredible surge in food commodity prices .

The world-bank wants $500 million to address this issue, but I get the feeling that an adequate response will require the industrialized world to adopt an ethos of "live simply so that others may simply live ".

My first instinct is to reduce our frivolous consumption of necessities. Eat less beef. Drive less. Reduce demand on basic items so that others won't starve. Channel those savings into investments to increase the availability of food and energy (it's a great market right now).

"You have seen how a man was made a slave; you shall see how a slave was made a man." --Frederick Douglas

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Speculation on necessities of life

This is a major problem: when it becomes profitable to speculate on goods that are prerequisite for life.

You know, as much as I hate people making money speculating on items such as precious metals or some other non-essential good, at least they aren't literally causing people to starve. Really, this is true of any good that has inelastic demand. Speculation ends up screwing over a good lot of people so that some money grubber can by a second Lexus.

Drive less.

If I had the money, I'd buy up property in downtown rust belt cities like crazy. The days of the suburb are numbered.

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Heh

...as much as I hate people making money speculating on items...

then 

If I had the money, I'd buy up property in downtown rust belt cities like crazy.

;) 

We are the environment. There is no distinction. What we do to the earth we do to ourselves. —David Suzuki

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how perceptive

:)

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I was aware

I was hoping someone would notice.

If I did really have a good deal of extra money I would buy up the land in order to make low-income housing. That way I could stop excessive gentrification from occurring when the merde hits the fan.

Unlike the government, I'd be free to kick out drug dealers and the willfully unemployed. These groups are the cancer that consumes government-run public housing.

Ohio law also allows landlords to conduct monthly health inspections. I'd use that to my full advantage to help only those who want a hand up, not a handout.

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speculation can be good -- especially for food and energy

I'm not aware of any economist addressing this issue, but I suspect that "bad" speculation can only impact commodities with low flux (where production and consumption is insignificant relative to the amount on the market). If a commodity has high flux, then speculation should serve a purpose (and hence be "good").

Bad speculation: land, gold.

Good speculation: food, oil. 

Speculation always depends upon the expectation of higher prices -- but for "good" speculation, those higher prices are the result of real changes in the supply and demand of the commodity -- therefore the speculation provides a warning of the changes to come and gives us additional time to prepare for the changes (by increasing production or decreasing consumption).

However, for "bad" speculation, the expectation of higher prices is predicated upon "momentum" or "irrational exuberance".  Since production and consumption are tiny relative to the size of the market, the increase in prices cannot be mitigated by changes in production or consumption -- this gives us bubbles and all types of financial chaos.

"You have seen how a man was made a slave; you shall see how a slave was made a man." --Frederick Douglas

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Goodness depends on elasticity

I'd say "bad" speculation occurs whenever the good has inelastic demand (usually these are necessities). Oil is one of these if you live in semi-rural areas with no mass transit like I have most of my life. If you live in an area with good mass transit, then it isn't so bad.

I don't care about the diamond market because we can all live without diamonds. I do care about the pork bellies market because we all need to eat.

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Energy use is elastic

It may not be ver elastic over the course of a year, but it is quite elastic over the course of decades (as cities build mass transit, individiuals buy fuel efficient devices, and individuals change their living conditions so that they don't require as much fuel)

 This time-lag is exactly why oil speculation can be good -- it encourages people to start changing their ways today, so that we have adjusted our infrastructure and lifestyles before the real shortage hits.

"You have seen how a man was made a slave; you shall see how a slave was made a man." --Frederick Douglas

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the problem isn't speculation, it's allocation

I don't think that speculation is the problem here -- it's allocation of resources.

If you want to "solve" those problems, you'll have to either ration the goods or redistribute wealth. This "good" speculation I descrobed reflects a real expectation of future shortages for the resource in question.

 

Disclaimer: I'm not arguing that the current oil speculation really is "good" speculation, simply that "good" speculation is plausible and should be the default explanation in the absence of evidence to the contrary.

"You have seen how a man was made a slave; you shall see how a slave was made a man." --Frederick Douglas

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broken link

The first link (food riots) is wrong.

 

Here's the proper link about food riots

"You have seen how a man was made a slave; you shall see how a slave was made a man." --Frederick Douglas

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