Tuesday Open Thread

NY gov says he tried coke, pot in his youth - this poor guy is forced to admit all sorts of stuff...
This is fairly minor - Clinton says she 'misspoke' about sniper fire in Bosnia, but the Left is trying to blow it out of proportion to help bring Hillary down. It's not going to work, even with CNN and MSNBC covering it.
I also moved the SC Stock Market Challenge discussion into the Special Topics on the right. :) Have a great Tuesday!

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Random Superdelegate: Gore-Led Ticket May Prevail...

I'm pretty agnostic about Al Gore, but unfortunately, no one really voted for him this time around. No matter what happened 8 years ago, if this happens, I'm not voting for him. Sorry, but this idea sounds too much like the Solomon baby-splitting story to me. The Democratic Party wouldn't think of nominating someone to lead the ticket who virtually no one voted for this year...






Would they? *Ponders nervously...*

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Remember there is no *right* to vote in a primary

you cannot be disenfranchised of your primary vote because it isn't a right in the first place. Similarly the Dems (or Reps) for that matter can choose their nominee by whatever means they want. If they want to hold sack races on alternative tuesdays to figure out who they send to the general, they can. And they don't even have to tell you ahead of time because they have no contract with you (now the state parties are a slightly different deal). There is no reason on earth that they *have* to hold a real primary.

Given that the primary has given us two incredibly evenly matched possibilities, both of whom show no signs of dropping out, and neither of whom can reasonably win without superdelegates, and the level of acrimony between the two sides is quickly rising- I think it makes a fair amount of sense for a third candidate to step in. I rather like Gore, but i would say he was a poor choice simply based on his gender and race except for the whole 2000 thing. Gore in the race helps make this election even more about GWB and dems have a big advantage if that is the case.

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Headline you'll never see

Bush admits he used cocaine

qui tacet consentire

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"Cocaine is a hell of a

"Cocaine is a hell of a drug"
Rick James
RIP

In our society, people are rewarded for pretending to be certain about things they're clearly not certain about. -- Sam Harris,

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The incident is fairly minor, but it plays right into

the narrative about her questionable honesty.

Also, half "the Left" is busy minimizing it, to support her.

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So much for the "surge". Mahdi militia in open revolt now.

A cease-fire critical to the improved security situation in Iraq appeared to unravel Monday when a militia loyal to radical Shiite Muslim cleric Muqtada al Sadr began shutting down neighborhoods in west Baghdad and issuing demands of the central government.

Let's tick off the reasons we are in Iraq that have been shown to be historically & demonstratably false:

1) Hussein was part of the 9/11 attacks.
2) Hussein had nukes, chemical & biological weapons.
3) Hussein was working with Al-Queda.
later reasons given:
4) The US was trying to bring freedom to Iraq.
5) The US wanted to bring democratic government to Iraq.
6) The US wanted to stop sectarian violence in Iraq.

And these are the main selling "reasons" we invaded Iraq & continue to occupy it.

Why we as a people haven't demanded that those who made these unbelievably stupid prioritizing decisions take responsibility for their terrible leadership and decisions speaks very poorly of us as a Nation and as a people.

Oh yea.....that bin Laden guy? He's still alive, free and laughing his ass off at our expense.

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Good article

In fact, I find it hard to believe very many people from whatever part of the political spectrum would disagree with him.

Which means all this "cartel-favoring" legislation is being passed by politicians against the interests of their constituents to serve a small vocal special interest.

What else is new, huh?

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Depends

let's take the examples-

interior designers- I can't think of any reason off the top of my head why they'd need to be licensed.

florists- ditto.

horse floaters-yes those people should be licensed. Should we require dentists to be licensed? Obviously yes. Same thing here- it doesn't matter that you are talking about an animal. Now should it require a full vetrinary degree, probably not. But some sort of licensing is warranted.

Funeral home- HELL YES they should be licensed.

Taxi and limosine- certainly limosines which involve driving large unwieldy cars through mostly urban areas. Taxis probably.

Hair braiding- probably not.

Wall paperer- do they use toxic chemicals? If not, then no. Manicurist ditto.

The story also loses big points for referencing Glenn Reynolds as an expert, but then again what can you expect from FOX?

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Ballistic weapons + pressurized cabins = ?

WASHINGTON -- A gun carried by a US Airways pilot accidentally discharged in the cockpit Saturday during a flight from Denver to Charlotte, N.C., the Transportation Safety Administration said Monday.

The incident, which occurred as Flight 1536 was preparing to land, marked the first time that a weapon issued under a federal program to arm pilots had been fired.

A statement posted by the TSA on its website noted that "the pilot was authorized to be in possession of the weapon and he completed the appropriate training."

Citing the investigation, officials of the TSA and US Airways declined to identify the pilot or provide information about the position of the gun or what the bullet struck. TSA spokesman Dwayne Baird said the pilot had been grounded.

The Airbus A319, which landed safely and without any injuries to the 124 passengers, two pilots and three flight attendants, has been pulled from service, also pending the investigation. According to the TSA, passengers were not aware of the incident.

story

Apparently the weapon in question is a USP .40, a 40 caliber handgun manufactured by Heckler and Koch. To give an idea what that means a 40 cal bullet has about 150% of the energy of a 9mm. Discharging one in a thin hulled pressurized cabin, particularly in the cockpit, seems a little stupid. Carrying them means they will discharge. Which tells you everything you need to know about putting guns on planes. If I had been a passenger I'd be very tempted to sue the TSA right about now for recklessly endangering my life.

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Absolutely nothing but a small hole in the fuselage.

While I wouldn't call this a 100% airtight refutation, the myth to which you refer has been busted multiple times:

Explosive Decompression

Explosive Decompression

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Wow, that's... different

Talkleft, a previously quality blog that has drifted towards all-out uncritical Clinton cheerleading/Obama bashing, is now enforcing a limit on comments to 20/day. "Chattering" comments will be erased. There is some suggestion in that thread that this limit, which is admittedly not technological but rather based on Jeralyn deciding someone is commenting too frequently, is likely to be interpreted such that pro-Obama posters are more strictly censored than are pro-Clinton posters. Since I don't participate at that site, I can't evaluate the accuracy of that view.

Seems like a stunningly short-sighted way to run a blog that profits based on advertising which is tied to traffic, but hey, it's their site they can do what they want.

Come, my friends. 'Tis not too late to seek a newer world -- Tennyson

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Comment Rations! lol

Who said communism couldn't work on the 'Net?

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It's my experience

that inevitably some comments are more equal than others =P

Come, my friends. 'Tis not too late to seek a newer world -- Tennyson

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It's funny too because our ole' Emeritus BTD says he's an

Obama leaner but the site does seem to lean to Clinton.

Me, I suspect he's just a democrat and doesn't really care which one, Hillary or Barack beat the stuffing out of John McCain's presidential ambitions.

But I will say, the natives on the site are a very restless & unhappy lot.

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Bold move, sounds like

Seems like a stunningly short-sighted way to run a blog that profits
based on advertising which is tied to traffic, but hey, it's their site
they can do what they want.

Not sure about how bad TalkLeft is since I never go there, but I would argue that short-sighted is exactly the wrong term for the described action taken by the site proprietor.  They are taking an action that will almost certainly hurt their traffic stats in the short term, in order to hopefully encourage a culture of more thoughtful, substantive commenting, which would hopefully ensure the long-term viability of the site. 

20 comments a day is a lot of comments for a thoughtful poster.  I don't see much difference between a 20 comment limit than, say, the one diary/day limit on DailyKos.

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Could be

and to be fair that site doesn't really have diaries -- they do, but AFAICT nobody reads them -- so your analogy may be solid.

I also got the impression that Jeralyn doesn't really care that much about growing the site and would rather cut down on posting than shell out for more bandwidth (and rake in more advertising). For example, they cap threads at 200 comments. It seems like the goal is not to have a larger blog but to have a "better" blog, where better is naturally in the eyes of the one setting the policies.

It still seems counterproductive from my POV -- I can't imagine deliberately decreasing participation. But like I said initially it's their site, they can do as they think best.

Come, my friends. 'Tis not too late to seek a newer world -- Tennyson

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This May Make You Chuckle...

Oops.

The U.S. Air Force mistakenly shipped fuses that are used in nuclear weapons to Taiwan in 2006, believing the crates contained helicopter batteries, officials at the Pentagon announced this morning.

The error -- undetected by the United States until last week, despite repeated inquiries by Taiwan -- raises questions about how carefully the Pentagon safeguards its weapons systems. It also exposes the United States to criticism from China, a staunch opponent of a militarized Taiwan.

Oh, our Pentagon..Do they keep these things next to each other in the Storage Room?

I bet the conversations went like this:

PENTAGON: Hello?
TAIWAN: Yeah, this is Taiwan, calling about an order..

PENTAGON: Please hold..

*US Anthem Plays for 10 minutes*

PENTAGON: Thanks for waiting Taiwan, this is the Department of INventory Effeciency, Protection and Transport (INEPT). How can we help?

TAIWAN: Yes, we ordered a set of US Helicopter Batteries, and we uh..got..missile components instead.

PENTAGON: Have you tried making them fit?
TAIWAN: Huh?

PENTAGON: Uh, never mind. Just go online and submit form DCN-3457(a) and DCN-3457(b) and we'll get to your order as soon as we can.
TAIWAN: Yeah..we submitted those forms a year ago but no one got back to us.

PENTAGON Did you fill out the External Country Weapons Reception Form?
TAIWAN We didn't order weapons--

PENTAGON Sir, you just said you received missile components.
TAIWAN But--

PENTAGON Just fill that form in and submit it, and please allow 3-6 months for our system to process your order discrepancy. Thank you.

*Click*

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Remember

last year the Airforce lost 6 nuclear warheads and didn't even notice for 36 hours. Turns out they had mistakenly been flown from North Dakota to Louisiana.

The investigation afterwards determined that nuclear security just wasn't much of a priority for the Air Force and military in general.

Mother of all *&^% ups

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Haha

Probably all too accurate.

One would think that there would be (a) a lot more oversight when dealing with such things and (b) a way to cut through the red tape to correct errors.

That last part could be genuinely unfortunate, if China is convinced (or is able to convincingly claim) that this wasn't a mistake but rather an attempt on our part to give weaponry to Taiwan.

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Hehehe

I hear that the Pentagon has assigned the Regional Envoy to the Director of Transportation of Arrmaments and Pentagon Exports (REDTAPE) to conduct oversight of INEPT.  

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SCOTUS rules 6-3 in favor of Texas in Medellen case

Brief commentary and links to other reactions here :

Chief Justice Roberts wrote the majority opinion, which held that neither a judgment of the International court of Justice nor the President's executive order directing state courts to follow the ICJ's judgment constituted federal law that pre-empts a state's pre-existing bar on the litigation of subsequent habeas petitions.

In English, Texas as a state is not bound by the Vienna Convention, which gives accused foreign nationals the right to contact their consulate, and the President doesn't have the authority to compel them to reconsider Medellen's death sentence because of their failure to abide by the treaty.

This ruling obviously has the potential to have a wide-ranging impact, far beyond the execution of Medellen for his horrific crime.

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I guess that redefines what the value of a Treaty is.

I thought there was something in the Constitution about all the States being required to act in accordance to signed treaties.

Maybe it depends on what the word "is" is <:p

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From my decidedly non-expert vantage point, that sounds

about right, although the word in question may be "undertakes" =)

This comment made a lot of sense to me.

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Leave it to Texas

Killing retards and petty criminals just isn't enough for them anymore.

Have I mentioned lately how much I hate the South?

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Uh-Oh..You got me.

This is the point where I slink in to defend the South and its appeal to Northern Transplants, but I'll wait for another time ;-)

I do miss the weather and the reasonable housing prices though. I'll never afford property in the Northeast--hope to be moving in a couple years.

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Forgive me if I don't shed

Forgive me if I don't shed any tears over this one.

First, the accused is essentially an American -- or would be one under anything but the so-despised rightwing stance on immigration. From the AP report

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Medellín, 33, has lived in the United States since he was 3; he speaks and writes English but is still a Mexican national.

I'm sure he attended school here, has worked here, and intended to live and die here. So this rather false indignation of "but wait, he's a Mexican" just doesn't ring true to me.

Second, the SCOTUS is ruling in favor of the rule of US law against the unlawful exercise of executive power (you know, that stuff we're always complaining about Mr Bush using too much of):

The court's decision... was a rebuke to the government in a case that involved the powers of all three branches of government, the intricacies of treaties and the international debate over the death penalty .... that pact not only does not give the president to "unilaterally make treaty obligations binding on domestic courts," but it also "implicitly prohibits him from doing so."

Thirdly, the crime was unbelievable horrific -- what they did to those girls would give any parent nightmares - and he did it, willfully, gleefully, and in full possession of his faculties.

He was part of a gang that attacked Jennifer Ertman, 14, and Elizabeth Peña, 16, as the girls walked home from a friend's house. The girls were raped and murdered, one of them strangled with her own shoestring.

"Perplexity is the beginning of knowledge" -- Kahlil Gibran

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hope he hangs n/t

"To discuss evil in a manner implying neutrality, is to sanction it." AR

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That's fine -- like I said above, the scope of the case

is much broader than this individual.

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First and third are irrelevant to the SCOTUS case

although I certainly understand your taking them into account when judging Medellen.

The second is somewhat less clear, IMHO, than you present it here -- there are genuine drawbacks to permitting states to ignore treaties, whatever the judicial reasoning may be. For example see the comment I linked in response to kindness above.

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Disagree

I think the first cuts to the heart of the illegal immigration issue and is the real crux of this matter.

Are illegal immigrants (let's use Mexico for this example) Mexicans, or de facto Americans?

If we think all 20 million of them are Mexicans entitled to all the rights of visiting citizens of other nations, then we should be free to ask them for their papers (e.g. no "sanctuary cities") and free to immediately deport them when they are found here without lawful permits, regardless of health, family status, etc.

In other words, if we think they are Mexican citizens, we cannot incarcerate any of them, because as citizens of Mexico, they have a right to appeal to their countries first. We should therefore be demanding papers of everyone we arrest, so that our law enforcement personnel know who is a citizen of Mexico and can take the appropriate steps.

If we think they are de facto Americans, then the Vienna convention does not apply to them at all. If the Vienna convention does not apply, then what the President did or didn't do doesn't matter.

I think he thinks he's a de facto American, and I think 20 million others do to.

"Perplexity is the beginning of knowledge" -- Kahlil Gibran

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I get your angle

I didn't really address it though so here goes.

It does not bother me, because the Federal government only controls things on the Federal level. Their treaties should not be binding on state and local matters.

That knife cuts both ways. This time you agree with the treaty. But next time you might not.

Checks on federal powers are good, IMHO.

"Perplexity is the beginning of knowledge" -- Kahlil Gibran

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That's a fair point as to de facto citizenship, but

I don't think that de facto is a good standard to use when enforcing the law. I think police who are interrogating someone on a capital charge ought to make a good-faith effort to ascertain the nationality of that person -- if the suspect lies, then whatever, but at least try.

As to the flip side, namely: then we should be free to ask them for their papers (e.g. no "sanctuary cities") and free to immediately deport them when they are found here without lawful permits, regardless of health, family status, etc. My impression is that the reason we don't do this is for two reasons, neither of which is grounded in concern for their de facto citizenship: first, there are potential privacy concerns with allowing police to demand American citizens provide proof of citizenship when there is no legal reason to doubt they have it*, and second, there are potential social (and, let's be honest, economic) concerns with deporting lots of people**.

* For example, permitting police to search anyone's house without a warrant would certainly catch many criminals, but would also violate the rights of non-criminal Americans like myself even though the search "doesn't harm anything" from our perspective.

** In other words, it would be damaging to us as US citizens even ignoring the impact upon those deported. One of the ways it could be damaging is how it might alter the behavior of those who suddenly face deportation if they engage in any official interaction with police or government employees -- for example, it could hinder criminal investigations or public health policies or whatever.

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What is standard practice?

I think police who are interrogating someone on a capital charge ought to make a good-faith effort to ascertain the nationality of that person -- if the suspect lies, then whatever, but at least try.

Good point, but is that part of routine police procedure everywhere? Or do police normally assume American citizenship and the onus falls on the national to say "um, hey, I'm X"

I know if I were hauled off to jail in Mexico, I'd say "um, hey, I'm an American"

"Perplexity is the beginning of knowledge" -- Kahlil Gibran

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Uh...no.

First, the accused is essentially an American -- or would be one under anything but the so-despised rightwing stance on immigration.

You don't have to be on the right to believe people can live here and still maintain foreign citizenship.

Second, the SCOTUS is ruling in favor of the rule of US law against the unlawful exercise of executive power

The Vienna Convention on Consular Relations was a treaty signed and ratified by the US government. It was not a unilateral action on the part of any president.

The "unilateral" action here is the president telling Texas they have to obey the law- which the president is absolutely empowered to do. It is the reason for the office to exist- the enforcement of laws made by the legislature.

Thirdly, the crime was unbelievable horrific -- what they did to those girls would give any parent nightmares - and he did it, willfully, gleefully, and in full possession of his faculties.

That has nothing to do with whether or not he has the right to contact his nation's embassy. You don't just say "well this guy is scum so we can ignore his rights..."

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The point is he's an American

For all intents and purposes. Only a technicality, our failure to properly control the flow of people into this country (and don't make negative assumptions about what I mean here), allows the claim of the Vienna Convention loophole.

You don't have to be on the right to believe people can live here and still maintain foreign citizenship.

So, you're saying that undocumented immigrants are really not Americans, and should always be treated as foreign citizens? Even a man who's been here practically since birth? Now I can see that coming from the right, but the left too?

The only rights that were ignored in his case were the Vienna convention rights, which I am saying I personally do not see as applicable here for the reasons I've laid out, so I can't get all worked up about a State's failure to live up to presidential fiat.

He's a defacto American, he committed and confessed to a horrific crime after waiving his MIranda rights in writing, so no, I'm not gonna lose sleep over this one.

"Perplexity is the beginning of knowledge" -- Kahlil Gibran

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I'm saying

that in a capital case where the defendant is at the very least technically a foreign national he/she should be allowed to contact their consulate as per our treaty agreements.

Now my guess is the Mexican consulate tells the guy to take a flying leap. That's fine, but the guy should be able to make the call.

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You're right, let the guy walk. We're being racist simply

by trying to prosecute him in the first place.

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Too funny: Jesus' General let's John McCain guest blog

at JG's site while Joe Lieberman does the steno work.

Sounds confusing? It isn't. But it is funny.....

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So much for that talking point

The Intelligent Design crowd really helps their claim of just wanting an open dialogue when they do things like have the police prevent scentist-bloggers from seeing their latest film.

Bonus irony at the end of Meyer's posting. Read it, it is damn funny.

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Myers and Dawkins

There's a great video over at Scienceblogs of Myers talking with Dawkins about the experience, and the movie itself. I think you'll enjoy it.

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Growing Pains, I love Kirk Cameron

In related news:

One has to love the "watch needs a watchmaker" argument.
That argument seems to have been made by atheist that were trying to make the Intelligent Design crowd look like fools.
The arguments seems to be based in the idea that Intelligent Design and Evolution are mutually exclusive, when they don't need to be.
And the if the argument seems to mean that:
watch = humans, life in general, and the entire universe
watchmaker = "God"
Isn't God even more complicated than a watch? Wouldn't some entity need to make God for God to exist if one followed the argument that a "watch needs a watchmaker"?

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Ah, Sahib, from there it is turtles...

...all the way down.

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Of course the movie ISN'T about ID ...

it is about academic intolerance and apparantly it makes THAT point very well:

Random right wing review :

As such, Expelled represents still another blow to the progressive orthodoxy of government-issued science in its winter of discontent.

The winter started early when in November two separate labs, one in Wisconsin, one in Japan, announced the breakthrough discovery that adult skin cells can be reprogrammed to mimic embryonic stem cells.

Just two years earlier, the elfin journalist Chris Mooney had likened adult stem cell research to creationism and assured the readers of his best seller, The Republican War on Science, that this “dogma” had been "resoundingly rejected by researchers actually working in the field."

As the winter rolled on, and as all four major global temperature tracking outlets showed a precipitous drop in annual global temperature, and as snow fell in Baghdad for the first time in recorded history, only Al Gore remained in meltdown.

Meanwhile, on a seemingly daily basis, the neo-Luddites from the Earth Liberation Front and the Animal Liberation Front have been putting a distinctly left wing face on the “war on science,” in this case a real war on real scientists.

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One highlight among many is Stein’s one-on-one interview with Richard Dawkins, the dashing Brit who has made a small fortune as the world’s most visible neo-Darwinist.

To his credit, and to the utter discomfort of the public education establishment, Dawkins does not shy from discussing the atheistic implications of Darwinism.

Indeed, Dawkin’s anti-deity call to arms, The God Delusion, has sold more than a million copies worldwide. Where Dawkins wanders into a black hole of his own making is in his discussion of the origins of life on earth.

To Stein’s astonishment, Dawkins concedes that life might indeed have a designer but that designer almost assuredly was a more highly evolved being from another planet, not “God.”

Stein does not respond. He does not need to. For the past hour of the film, the audience has met one scientist after another whose academic careers have been derailed for daring to suggest the possibility of intelligent design.

If only they had thought to put the designer on another planet!

[...]

The producers have contracted with the same firm that marketed Mel Gibson’s The Passion to get the word out. They will use much the same strategy.


Central to this strategy is the creation of a powerful buzz and a strong enough opening weekend to catch Hollywood’s attention and hold it.

Put April 18 on your calendars. Bring the kids. You won’t be disappointed.

Seems like Myers and Dawkins may be unwittingly carrying the water for the movie's producers here as they are generating lots of buzz. :) Perhaps that is exactly WHY one of them was booted out and the more prominent one allowed in? Hmmm.

Random left wing review :

Ben Stein is dead to me. It’s a shame, considering my own high school has long touted him as one of our most prominent alumni. Unfortunately, he must have skipped biology class more than a few times because his new anti-evolution movie Expelled (in theaters April 18) infuriates me. It paints intelligent design as the underdog, stifled by “Big Science”.

[...]

The trailer begins with Ben Stein discussing evolutionists’ wacky ideas, saying: “they believe we’re nothing more than mud animated by lightning”. Nice unbiased strawman argument there. But Ben Stein is nothing if not reasonable, adding, “I have no problem if people want to believe that sort of thing.”

Though of course, no creationist diatribe would be complete without pointing out that “Darwinism’s not only improbable, it might even be dangerous” as footage of concentration camps scrolls across the screen.
Hitler believed in evolution, therefore evolution caused the Holocaust. It’s a straightforward argument. Hitler also had a mustache; perhaps we should ban mustaches to prevent any future horrors.

But what upsets me the most are the simple, to the point counterarguments included as sound bites from prominent evolution supporters: “They [intelligent design proponents] are not scientists.” “Intelligent design is not a research program.” “It’s all propaganda.” Apparently, the intelligent design movement expects the average American to interpret these valid criticisms as more evidence of the narrowmindedness of “Big Science”. Unfortunately, the intelligent design movement is probably right about that, and that makes me sad.

Even the lefties recognize it as a problem in spite of their bias.

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Expelled

I've got no idea whether this is going to be a good movie with valid points to make, or if it is going to be propagandist tripe, or somewhere in between. (Probably that last one.) But a couple of responses to what you have written here:

1. Chris Mooney is a journalist, not an academic, so I don't see how anything he says can be used as evidence of academic intolerance. In fact, I don't see anything in the righty review that makes that point particularly well at all.

2. I believe you are misinterpreting what "that" refers to in the underlined part of your left wing review. I believe he is saying that they are probably right about expecting the average American to be swayed by this propaganda, not that the propaganda is valid.

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Note my use of the adjective RANDOM in the links above.

In other words these are RANDOM posts arbitrarily picked out of google that I thought had some interesting descriptions of the content of the movie.

My opening sentence was probably not worded well as I agree the material I quoted doesn't support the claim, specifically.  My bad.

Either way my claim is still accurate if you read up on it.  The movie is making the case that academics are intolerant of any investigations or approaches which buck the status quo within the scientific community.  This has happened in more than just ID, global warming and stem cell research provide examples as well.

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son of a *&^%#!

I just got the wedding invitation for a friend of mine and in between the usual stupid lines of gayness there's this foreign language script that looks sort of familiar but I can't place it. SO I look at it real closely. It isn't any of the alphabets I know fairly well. So I start checking various other alphabets online. The shape of the letters is strongly middle eastern so I look at arabib and farsi and turkish and hebrew. Nothing really close. I look at Aramaic and that's closer so I start thinking it's some descendant of aramaic. I'm looking at Tibetian and Indian alphabets. Nothing quite matches. Now my friend is pure white bread as far as I can tell. I don't know his fiancee all that well but based on her last name, accent, and appearance she seems pretty standard american mutt. Nothing to indicate strong ethnic heritage. Finally I'm looking at the invite itself, the syntax and specific prayer but it's pretty generic. The reception is at some norwegian lodge but I know it's not that.

So I email him finally to ask.

It's Quenya.

Yeah, mother&^%$ing elvish. Mother%$#^ing Tolkien &^%$ing High ^%$&ing elvish.

I'm so going to hurt him when I see him.

I came. I saw. I posted.
Veni, Vidi, Bitchy.

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Are you upset because you wasted a lot of time trying to figure it out or because you have something against elves?

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Damn Elves...sneaking across our borders taking our jobs...

I'm worried that they are already taking over.....

Keebler Cookies was just their little feet in the door.

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Now that you mention it ...

I think the sneaky little bast***s are branching out into crackers and other related snack foods besides just cookies.

Boycott Kebler! 

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Mike Gravel has joined the Libertarian Party

Gravel's intentions may be to seek both the LP and GP nominations

i give it low odds that Gravel would be able to pull it off, but it would be bad news for the Dems if he succeeded.

I've a suggestion to keep you all occupied.
Learn to swim.
Moms gonna fix it all soon.
Moms comin round to put it back the way it ought to be.

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I lean toward "publicity stunt"

on this. There's no way you could synthesize the two parties or many of Gravel's views with the LP.

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Operation Chaos.

I was just listening to Rush talking to a guy in Texas who is a Republican that crossed over and voted for Hillary. He then went and caucused and ended up being nominated to be a Hillary delegate! :)

This should be interesting to see how far along in the process this guy gets. With any luck he can make it all the way to Denver!

This is just hilarious! :)

On a related note, Rush issues a plea:

Don't Abandon Mrs. Clinton; Help Her Try to Steal the Nomination

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Or how to make a mockery of the voting process

There are some questions about the legality of this, specifically in Ohio. Hopefully facing felony charges will discourage some disengenious voters whose mentor is Rush Limbaugh, from playing games.

I wonder what would happen if Rush was trying to do Operation Voting Chaos in an election in say Baghdad.

It is the economy, stupid.

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Don't you find it funny ...

that they are talking about prosecuting Republican cross overs who voted for Hillary but not Democrat cross overs who voted from McCain?  Why is that?

Maybe it has to do with the party associated with the Governor?

Nothing will ever come of it. 

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Oops, double post.

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