Political progress = ?

Reconciliation = ?

Victory = ?

Winning = ?

The new word being used to help lower expectations is one step below reconciliation, accomodation.

If bribes and apertheid was the answer in the first place, the US could have saved a lot of money on bullets and medicine.

As far as Murtha being a hero....... he has the courage to speak up about what he sees, Ender, he isn't playing stupid little games like you are just for the sake of some political agenda.

But of course none of this BS is the real Bush agenda, the real Bush agenda is go dominate and loot the country of its resources, and Maliki in his $2,000 suit is on board the gravy train.

I'm fine with him acknowledging obvious security gains over the past few months, but speaking for myself, he's not a political hero:

People are blowing this FISA thing out of proportion. It's not a
well-crafted law, but it will be back up for debate over the winter.

I was actually more outraged by the business-as-usual near-unanimous
passage by the house of the bloated $470 Defense Appropriations bill
later on Saturday night. It was a FULL $3 billion less than the
president requested! Wow, what fiscal responsibility! And Jack
Murtha's defense of various ridiculous earmarks was scandalously pathetic. He at one point said that earmarks were competitively bid,
which is an outright lie. And he stood shoulder to shoulder with known
crook Jerry Lewis in stonewalling the earmarks.

skymutt, 8/6/2007

Murtha-- and it hurts me to say this, because I've appreciated his
stand on the war-- ought to be immediately suspended from his
chairmanship of the House Defense Appropriations Subcommittee while this is being investigated. His dealings with these earmark incubators
represents everything that is wrong with the appropriations process.

skymutt, 10/15/2007

It has been problematic all along that the face of the movement against the Iraq War in the House has
been Murtha, a man with the right military service credentials for
sure, but who has walked close to the edge on ethics for his entire
career in Congress.

skymutt, 10/15/2007

Corruption is misdiagnosed as caving also. I suppose that corruption
in itself could be called caving, but I doubt that people would waste
their time ranting about the "cavers" if they recognized that some of
these folks are already owned by other interests and won't be
listening. Actually, some of the representatives that have the most
physical courage-- Jack Murtha, for example-- also are the most
corrupt. These people have guts-- but they are often fighting like
hell for their own interests.

skymutt, 11/16/2007