Thursday Open Thread

What's happening this post-Halloween, first-day-of-November morning?

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There were two pieces posted late last night

that I don't mean to push down the page, so definitely check out the Great article on Halloween and Ron Paul on Jay Leno posts if you haven't seen them already.

Come, my friends. 'Tis not too late to seek a newer world -- Tennyson

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On second thought

I changed the timestamp on these to put them up top for the day. People can always scroll down for the open thread.

Come, my friends. 'Tis not too late to seek a newer world -- Tennyson

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High school football players much bigger today

HARRISBURG, Pa. — William "The Refrigerator'' Perry became a sensation with the Chicago Bears in the 1980s because of his size — he weighed more than 300 pounds.

He entered the National Football League when there were only a few players his size. Today, Perry would be just another player on many high school teams.

Link

A 300-pound lineman is not unusual on many high school teams these days. It is partly because players today train year-round but it is also a reflection of living in a Caloric Nation.

qui tacet consentire

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yeah

I need to lose about 20-25lbs myself in the stomach area... It's tough when there are so many tasty choices available.

"To discuss evil in a manner implying neutrality, is to sanction it." AR

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Only one way to do that, buddy.

Regular exercise. At least five days a week.

If you really believe this is the "fight of our lives," how come you're not in Iraq?

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yeah, I know what it takes

but I rarely feel like exercising after work... Thus the problem.

"To discuss evil in a manner implying neutrality, is to sanction it." AR

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Is there any way for you to commute by bicycle?

Or is it just too difficult to navigate roads/traffic, etc.?

If you really believe this is the "fight of our lives," how come you're not in Iraq?

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too hard

it's about 20+ miles by highway. :) Half an hour drive usually.

I do have a treadmill at home... I need to use that.

"To discuss evil in a manner implying neutrality, is to sanction it." AR

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Gotta' make a routine.

Same time everyday or something along those lines. Otherwise, it's too easy to bail on it.

If you really believe this is the "fight of our lives," how come you're not in Iraq?

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It seems like only yesterday...

... that Ender was writing:

Great news on the economic front - U.S. economy grew 3.9 percent in Q3, fastest pace in 18 months well ahead the 3.1% forecast and on par with last quarter's 3.8% showing US Economy's amazing resilience in the face of the Housing slump.

Oh, wait. That was yesterday!

Then there's today, and a return to real world instead of the fantasy world some folks seem to prefer...

Big Board imposes stock trading curbs

Stocks plunge on oil, credit worries

Manufacturing growth almost stalled in October

Spending growth slowed in September

Home Prices Tumble, Consumers Shaken

If you really believe this is the "fight of our lives," how come you're not in Iraq?

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The faces of the 'gloaters' on CNBC

are decidedly more frowny than they were yesterday.

These guys are playing Russian Roulette with the markets. They are intoxicated with greed and growth.

Citibank losses are a big BIG deal. And the Feds injected billions in liquidity. Why would they do that if the markets are so fantastic?

This sub-prime crises is NOT about the housing market. It is about how they bundled the money for global financial investments and leveraged it Enron style.
The goddamn money isn't there. People do not get how serious this is.

Thanks for noting this CLC.

It is the economy, stupid.

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Youch! Dow down 360 points. Oil reached a new high

of $96.24 a barrel before finishing at $93.07 for the day, as per CNN.

I guess dubya & Darth's oil buddies are clinkin' their whiskey sours & high fiving each other right about now though.

Hey, I have a suggestion that will help dubya's buddies out even more. Why don't we carpet bomb Saudi Arabia RIGHT NOW???? Just think what the price of oil could zoom to.

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glad you are thinking :) n/t

"To discuss evil in a manner implying neutrality, is to sanction it." AR

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That would have been a better idea than invading Iraq.

If you really believe this is the "fight of our lives," how come you're not in Iraq?

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10-4

Screw the Saudis.

qui tacet consentire

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Dunno about that

Exxon missed projections and their stock tumble contributed to the carnage today:

Sky-high oil prices don't necessarily mean profits are gushing at the major oil companies. On Nov. 1, Exxon Mobil (XOM), the world's largest integrated oil company, reported a 10% drop in profits for the third quarter from a year ago. Lower margins for refining and chemical segments cut into profits despite rising crude oil prices.

[...]Company shares tumbled more than 3% and contributed to a steep fall in the Dow Jones industrial average (BusinessWeek, 11/1/07), which was off more than 250 points at one point in early trading on Nov. 1.

Probably gas prices will rise in the next few months to reflect the increase in oil costs. Not a great time for this:

The poor , already digging deep to pay for expensive gasoline, also will face much higher heating fuel costs, especially if oil prices stay near record levels.

[...]The current $2.16 billion LIHEAP budget in only $300 million more than what the program had when it was created by Congress in 1981. Despite higher energy costs, the Bush administration has proposed cutting the program's budget.

Come, my friends. 'Tis not too late to seek a newer world -- Tennyson

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Please understand, I drive 160 miles a day.

The oil companies are making more money off me than probably anyone on the board here. I DON'T want oil to skyrocket.

This morning on NRO they were talking about the price of home heating oil having gone up 60 cents a gallon in the last 6 months just before winter. Out here in CA, no one uses oil to heat their homes but growing up in the suburbs of NY almost every house on my street used an oil burning furnace to heat their houses.

I really should own some oil stock. Let's hope my meager mutual funds do.

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Not buying Bush's defense of Mukasey

Bush said it was unfair to ask Mukasey about interrogation techniques on which he has not been briefed. "He doesn't know whether we use that technique or not," the president told a group of reporters invited into the Oval Office.

Further, Bush said, "It doesn't make any sense to tell the enemy whether we use those techniques or not."

As hilzoy points out at ObWi ,

There is an easy way for Mukasey to get around the fact that he has not been briefed on what the CIA did: just define waterboarding, say whether waterboarding so defined is torture, and add that not having been briefed on what the CIA did, he doesn't know whether or not what they did meets his definition. That Mukasey has not taken this obvious route suggests that he is not motivated by his own uncertainty, but by the desire to keep people he believes have engaged in torture from being punished for their crimes.

Come, my friends. 'Tis not too late to seek a newer world -- Tennyson

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Exactly. He doesn't need to be "briefed" on it and

... whether or not we are "using" it.

It is what it is by definition.

Bush must think we are all as stupid as he is.

If you really believe this is the "fight of our lives," how come you're not in Iraq?

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Yup -- it seems odd that this was considered a slam-dunk

nomination. Shows you how much the center has shifted, I guess. We'll see if the Dems block him now.

Come, my friends. 'Tis not too late to seek a newer world -- Tennyson

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The DOJ is

a massive mess due to the politicization that has everyone dispirited.

So desparate they are to clean it up and restore integrity was the reason for McC appointment.

It is the economy, stupid.

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Hey, I thought we "turned a corner" in Iraq?

Hasn't the administration been trumpeting their successes in "tamping down the violence" in Iraq? Isn't the surge a sweeping success?

Then what gives?

At least 887 Iraqis killed in October

BAGHDAD (AFP) - At least 887 Iraqis were killed in Iraq in October, ministry data showed on Thursday, slightly higher than September which saw a total of 840 people killed across the nation.

Data from Iraq's interior, defence and health ministries showed that 758 civilians, 116 policemen and 13 soldiers were killed in attacks across Iraq in October.

Earlier, AFP reported that 554 Iraqis were killed last month and another 333 bodies were found across the country, many of them of people killed in previous months.

A security official with access to the data, however, said these bodies were of people also killed in October, taking the overall death toll for the month to 887.

If you really believe this is the "fight of our lives," how come you're not in Iraq?

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Well, I dunno about "sweeping success"

But I don't think that there's much doubt that the number of people killed in Iraq has been on the decline this year. 

You have to take these stats with a grain of salt, but there appears to be a pretty clear downtrend--

http://www.iraqbodycount.org/database/

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Yeah, down to a measly 900 a month.

Nevermind that there are about two million Iraqi refugees who have fled the country at present and that number continues to expand.

And "stability" has come to areas around Baghdad due to ethnic cleansing/repopulation by like sects.

I guess having only 900 people killed in violence every month is better than having 2,000 killed every month, but as this month showed, we got a small bump and not a decline.

I hope they can "live with" getting clipped at a 900/month rate from now until whenever we leave.

If you really believe this is the "fight of our lives," how come you're not in Iraq?

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Don’t Want to Die in Iraq? You’re Like People Who Support

Slavery. That's what Thomas (?) said yesterday when confronted by Foreign Service Officers who protested that:

"One of the foreign service officers characterized service in Iraq "a potential death sentence" and said "[a]ny other embassy in the world would be closed by now."

A poll conducted this month by the American Foreign Service Association found that only 12 percent of officers "believe that . . . Rice is fighting for them," union president John K. Naland said at yesterday's meeting, which was first reported by the Associated Press.

"That's their right. But they're wrong," said Thomas, who appeared to grow increasingly agitated as the questioning became more pointed.

"Sometimes, if it's 88 to 12, maybe the 88 percent are correct," Naland said.

"Eighty-eight percent of the country believed in slavery at one time. Was that correct?" Thomas responded, saying he was "insulted." Rice is fighting hard for them, he said.

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Rice's in-house approval rating is lower than Bush's national!

Wow.

Morale must be at an all-time high at the State Department.

There will be cases of Champagne in federal offices all around D.C. the day this administration checks out.

If you really believe this is the "fight of our lives," how come you're not in Iraq?

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HR-1955. Thought Crimes Bill?!?

OK, I hadn't heard of this one. But I just read this article over at TalkLeft by Jerilyn: House Passes Thought Crimes Bill and No One Notices? and it has me stumped.

"This is a thought-crimes bill, aimed at preventing domestic terrorism by judging the thoughts, including those expressed on the Internet, of American citizens.

If passed into law, it will also establish a co.mmission and a Center of Excellence to study and defeat so called thought criminals. Unlike previous anti-terror legislation, this bill specifically targets the civilian population of the United States and uses vague language to define homegrown terrorism.

More....

.... take a look at the definitions of violent radicalization and homegrown terrorism as defined in Section 899A of the bill. The definition of violent radicalization uses vague language to define this term of promoting any belief system that the government considers to be an extremist agenda. Since the bill doesn't specifically define what an extremist belief system is, it is entirely up to the interpretation of the government."

That could be any one of us on the liberal side. And before you more right leaning folks start applauding the bill, what's gonna happen to you if we end up with President Hillary?

Wow. On that note, it would be kinda nice to see Rush & O'Riely frogmarched off to Guantanamo. Maybe there is a silver lining.

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I thought this was a spoof until I read the bill online

Big Brother, baby...

I've a suggestion to keep you all occupied.
Learn to swim.
Moms gonna fix it all soon.
Moms comin round to put it back the way it ought to be.

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Appropriate name for the bill...

HR-1955...

as in... the year 1955....

....as in "the Red Scare".

I'd like to tell you what I really think about this bill.... but then I'd be arrested for my thoughts.

“Unthinking respect for authority is the greatest enemy of truth.” --- Albert Einstein

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Hilarious Larry Craig claymation

You may recognize the the singing group .

If you really believe this is the "fight of our lives," how come you're not in Iraq?

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Hilarious!

Oh man, that's too funny.

"You airport bathroom ho" <--- Best new club line of 2007

"Perplexity is the beginning of knowledge" -- Kahlil Gibran

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