Weekend Open Thread

In the news, the pedophile in the unswirled picture was caught in Thailand yesterday, DNA co-discoverer Watson has been suspended from his lab and canceled a book tour in the aftermath of controversial racial remarks , Iran's nuclear negotiator has resigned in what may represent a hardening of Iran's nuclear position, the new Star Trek film is being cast and will include Nimoy, and the Red Sox try to stave off elimination again tonight with Schilling on the mound.

Random question: what are your grammar pet peeves? Does it make you literally insane when people use literally incorrectly? Does you're blood pressure spike when your replying to a comment mixing up your forms? When someone doesn't know what they are talking about, do you focus on their misuse of they when a singular personal pronoun is required? Whatever your peeve, irregardless of it's merits, let it out!

This is a weekend open thread -- what's going on?

Comments :

Comment viewing options

Select your preferred way to display the comments and click "Save settings" to activate your changes.

Grammar pet peeves

It's funny, since becoming a blogger I've noticed more and more that spelling, grammatical errors and abbreviations (shorting of words, Acronyms ) tend not to bother me as much as they used to!

I've come to regard them as cool, quirky personality traits from authors I constantly read online!

Plus, I'm guilty of almost every grammatical infraction known to man! Especially my overuse of the exclamation mark!!! ;0)

"Those who expect to reap the blessings of freedom must, like men, undergo the fatigue of supporting it."
-Thomas Paine: The American Crisis, No. 4, 1777

…………

Great answer!

Blogging is certainly more free-flowing and none of us have editors cleaning up our prose.

Come, my friends. 'Tis not too late to seek a newer world -- Tennyson

………… parent

This isn't consistent, but

I find that I'm much more tolerant of grammar/spelling mistakes in comments than in essays. Everyone makes mistakes (you could probably point out dozens of mine after a quick web search), but in general a glaring mistake really sticks out to me as a sign of poor attention. I feel like, if you want to make an impact with an essay, and you want me to take it to heart, you should at least be putting your best foot forward. Comments are more spontaneous - and sometimes fast - so I tend not to get annoyed with them.

Saint, n. A dead sinner revised and edited. - Ambrose Bierce

………… parent

Blogroll updated

Changed the specific posts highlighted under each blog. I hadn't done that for a while, sorry about that. Some good links there now, check them out.

Come, my friends. 'Tis not too late to seek a newer world -- Tennyson

…………

Boston-Cleveland underway

Should be a good game...

Come, my friends. 'Tis not too late to seek a newer world -- Tennyson

…………

not watching it yet.

I'm just keeping tabs for now. I'm watching a replay of Roma-Napoli from the Italian "Serie A" soccer league. Even though my team isn't playing (AC Milan), I read the match report and it was a great game (4-4). It'll be over by around the 5th-6th inning.

Priorities! Baseball doesn't hold a candle to soccer in my book.
It's number 3 after Soccer and Football (tied).

………… parent

Go Sox!

Having had the unbelievably good fortune to be attending last night at Fenway, oh yeah, it was a good game!

We are the environment. There is no distinction. What we do to the earth we do to ourselves. —David Suzuki

………… parent

Oh wow

Lucky you!

At this point I gotta figure the momentum is definitely on their side. I hope Dice K can produce a strong start. I'm sure Theo is hoping the same thing after Drew finally came through last night.

Come, my friends. 'Tis not too late to seek a newer world -- Tennyson

………… parent

Meh...

I might watch a game or two if the Indians get to the World Series. I don't like baseball much at all, but it'd be nice to see a local team do well. Then again, I didn't care much when the Cavs did well in the playoffs.

And I've just realized that game 6 has already been played, yet I don't know the score. Yeah, I definitely don't follow baseball.

I never broke the law; I am the law! -- George W. Bush Judge Dredd
I'm listening to...

………… parent

One of my pet peeves ...

Is when people try to refer to the party of the Democrats as the Democratic party.  It is the Democrat party.  :)

Republican Maverick at Large
-4:Strongly Disagree; 0:Meh; +4:Strongly Agree

…………

Democratic v. Democrat

Do you believe this is just a regionalism or do people do it to be disparaging? I know of a very few Democrats in the south who do call it "The Democrat Party", and in fact, even in Ohio I saw a yard sign that was sponsored by the "Paulding County Democrat Party". It gave me enough pause to think it was a fake sign.

I never broke the law; I am the law! -- George W. Bush Judge Dredd
I'm listening to...

………… parent

It's a disapraging tactic

that is the product of focus group studies.

Personally, I find it pathetic and childish.

………… parent

What is the focus group reference you keep mentioning?

Republican Maverick at Large
-4:Strongly Disagree; 0:Meh; +4:Strongly Agree

………… parent

Yeah, most of the time

I know that it is usually used as such, but some people truly don't know that it is including some southerners. Certainly the Putnam County Democrats don't (unless the sign was a plant).

I never broke the law; I am the law! -- George W. Bush Judge Dredd
I'm listening to...

………… parent

In my case I am just being obnoxious.

Although I have heard it used both ways outside of hard core polictial circles.

Wikipedia has an article on the term

Republican Maverick at Large
-4:Strongly Disagree; 0:Meh; +4:Strongly Agree

………… parent

Which do you find to be most derisive?

  1. Democratic Party
  2. Democrat Party
  3. "Democratic" Party
  4. "Democrat" Party

Republican Maverick at Large
-4:Strongly Disagree; 0:Meh; +4:Strongly Agree

………… parent

Some interesting poll results.

So, who "won" the battle between Harry Reid and Rush Limbaugh?


Poll: Reid's popularity falls among Nevadans

Oct. 15, 2007
By MOLLY BALL

Reid's favorable rating was 32 percent, compared with 51 percent unfavorable and 15 percent neutral. Gibbons was viewed favorably by 30 percent, Bush by 34 percent.

The Review-Journal last asked Nevadans their opinion of Reid in early May. At that time, he was seen favorably by 46 percent and unfavorably by 42 percent.

[ ... ]

Reid's staff provided an internal poll conducted for Reid by Democratic pollster Mark Mellman in early August, which was not made public at the time because it was intended as an internal barometer. That poll of 600 voters statewide had 56 percent approving of Reid, 40 percent disapproving.

[ ... ]

Bush's 34 percent was on par with his national approval rating, which currently averages about 32.5 percent, according to Pollster.com. It was slightly down from the last Review-Journal measurement in May, which put the president at 36 percent among Nevadans.

[ ... ]

Right-wing talk show host Rush Limbaugh: 34 percent favorable, 50 percent unfavorable, 15 percent neutral. Limbaugh, who recently has sparred with Reid in a battle played out on both the airwaves and the Senate floor, had strikingly similar numbers to the Democratic senator's.


"That's how polarizing Harry Reid has become," Coker said. "But Rush is trying to be polarizing. Reid just does it anyway."

Why are these interesting?

  1. All indications above are that Reid's approval ratings were in the 45-55% range before he wrote the Rush Limbaugh smear letter on October 2, 2007, and now a recent poll being reported on October 15, 2007 has him at just 32% approve and a whopping 51% disapprove. [1] [2]
  2. Both President Bush and Rush Limbaugh top Reid in approval ratings with 34% approvals each.

It certainly appears that in the court of public opinion anyway, Rush Limbaugh came out on top!

-----------------------------------------------------------

[1] These numbers are for people in Reid's home state of Nevada, not national numbers.

[2] Is this conclusive evidence that the Rush attack was the cause for the drop? No, but it certainly does look like it probably had a significant impact since this is the most recent newsworthy thing Reid has done.

Republican Maverick at Large
-4:Strongly Disagree; 0:Meh; +4:Strongly Agree

…………

Latecomers

I threw Reid under the bus less than 2 weeks into the new Congress.  He sux, and he's dirty. 

In fact, I may have been THE VERY FIRST PERSON on DailyKos to note this kind of legislative failing in the new Democratic Congress, amidst the still rampant cheerleading of early January, though I cannot confirm that ;-)  Of course, now such condemnations are very much en vogue over there, as abject despair has set in.

………… parent

I haven't followed the dkos perspective on this ...

What was the mood over there about the feud in general, and also specifically about the results of the auction?

Republican Maverick at Large
-4:Strongly Disagree; 0:Meh; +4:Strongly Agree

………… parent

Not much action on it that I saw

But I may have missed it.  Your general view of things still doesn't meet with much approval, apparently:

Giving to charity is self serving?
(0+ / 2- )

Trollrated by:
SeattleLiberal ,
debedb

He turned Senator Reid's smear
and lies into a 4 million dollar charitable donation.  Far from money
grubbing and self serving, he's happily donating his own money to help
others.

I'm not shocked at all to see the diary this comment is connected
continuing the Media Matters lie regarding Rush Limbaugh.  He did not
"call all veterans of war who do not support George W. Bush and his
failed Iraq invasion "Phony Soldiers.""  But everyone here knows that.
It's just a little inconvenient to speak the truth.

Everyone here should be frightened of this comment: "Following a
heated debate as to whether Rush should be permitted to speak in such a
manner.." Does it not chill even the most liberal Kos Kid that the
Senate would spend anytime debating what a private citizen can say or
not say?  What happens when Senator Reid doesn't like what YOU say?

Rush Limbaugh has nothing to apologize for.  Senator Reid is the one
who owes Rush Limbaugh and every American an apology for wasting our
time and money on Unconstitutional activities like his letter.

………… parent

LOL, thanks for pointing this out.

I read the diary it was attached to.  What a farce.  :)

These dkos losers actually think that this was about atonement.  What a laugh.  It was first and foremost about raising money for the cause.  Any enjoyment Rush gets out of it is his ability to demonstrate just how small these people actually are.

Interestingly enough, even Harry Reid gave Rush credit for doing a positive thing (although at the same time he tried to jump on the bandwagon).

Judging from Tlaloc's reaction to the whole thing as well as the people in this diary they got stung pretty good by the way he turned it around on them.  :) 

Republican Maverick at Large
-4:Strongly Disagree; 0:Meh; +4:Strongly Agree

………… parent

You still don't get it.

ah, well.

I came. I saw. I posted.
Veni, Vidi, Bitchy.

………… parent

You left something out, something critical

Does it not chill even the most liberal Kos Kid that the Senate would spend anytime debating what a private citizen can say or not say?

You left out the part that they were commenting on what he said ON AIR. Not one person in this country has freedom of speech when it comes to broadcasts. That right does not exist.

The government most certainly can and does regulate broadcast speech. Treating this as somehow unusual is simply false.

I came. I saw. I posted.
Veni, Vidi, Bitchy.

………… parent

Pfft.

The government can and does regulate broadcast speech in terms of things like obscenity for the public good, but trying to regulate broadcast speech based on political views is a completely different story. They can't, for example, create a rule that forbids all criticism of the "Democrat" Party. Such a law would be a clear violation of the first amendment.

Here, again, is an example of how you seek to use the power of the government to control others. Yet, mysteriously, you seem to contend that you defend freedom.

Republican Maverick at Large
-4:Strongly Disagree; 0:Meh; +4:Strongly Agree

………… parent

You're wrong

They can't, for example, create a rule that forbids all criticism of the "Democrat" Party.

No they could. Which isn't to say they should, but it would not violate any right.

Here, again, is an example of how you seek to use the power of the government to control others.

Here again I have to say "reading comprehension."

I came. I saw. I posted.
Veni, Vidi, Bitchy.

………… parent

How else am I to interpret you wanting to silence opponents?

Republican Maverick at Large
-4:Strongly Disagree; 0:Meh; +4:Strongly Agree

………… parent

Correctly interpreting things

is not one of your strengths.

I came. I saw. I posted.
Veni, Vidi, Bitchy.

………… parent

SL SC Meeting: Wednesday this week

Here's your heads-up for the upcoming Swords Crossed meeting in Second Life this week. Wednesday night, 5:30pm Pacific Time.

I'll post a reminder later this week.

I have learned to cut people a lot of slack with regards to grammar, spelling, and punctuation since joining SL. One becomes fluent in Typonese and generally knows whether the person making the errors is just fat-fingering the keyboard or really did sleep through English class. Or, in some cases, is being intentionally provocative ;} No one here does that, of course *cough*

"Perplexity is the beginning of knowledge" -- Kahlil Gibran

…………

Regarding Portland light rail, which Tlaloc diaried awhile back:

Cato's Randal O'Toole has a paper up which is critical of Portland's light rail, and Portland's city planning in in general; and there's also links to a rebuttal of that paper from conservative Paul Weyrich.  Evidently, both are area residents.  Interesting reading, particularly if you're familiar with the area. 

 Links to both O'Toole's paper and Weyrich's criticism of it found here.

Tlaloc, if you read this, I'd be particularly interested in your thoughts on what O'Toole has to say. 

…………

Weyrich is certainly right about development

All along the max line you find expensive developed neighborhoods surrounded by much less developed and lower cost areas further from the stops. Clearly the Max line is serving as a root for development.

Of course that isn't always good, a lot of those areas are revolting yuppy hells. As for the savings in transit time I highlighted the same study in my diary. I don;t have the expertise to do the analysis myself so I can't confirm that the study is right, but qualitatively Portland certainly feels less congested than most big cities (obviously New York is an exception with their subway system).

As for O'Tool... he works for Cato. I don't waste my time on them for good reason.

I came. I saw. I posted.
Veni, Vidi, Bitchy.

………… parent

Iraqi police launch attack on U.S. base

BAGHDAD, Oct. 20 -- The men gathered in the evening at the schoolyard to execute their attack. By the time they finished, at least seven rockets had crashed down nearly four miles away inside the American military headquarters compound in Baghdad, killing two U.S. soldiers and wounding at least 38 other people, according to U.S. soldiers.

From the courtyard of his concrete-barricaded garrison in southwestern Baghdad that evening, Lt. Col. Patrick Frank heard the distinctive sound of rocket fire. He hurried inside his command office to flat-screen panels displaying aerial imagery to pinpoint the launch site.

Within minutes, his cellphone began ringing. Several Iraqi informants told him the attack had originated near the decrepit school in al-Amil, recalled Frank, the battalion commander in the neighborhood. His sources agreed on another thing, too, he said: "There were several Iraqi police vehicles spotted leaving the scene."

Link

qui tacet consentire

…………

Bobby Jindal wins LA governor

BATON ROUGE, La. - U.S. Rep. Bobby Jindal easily defeated 11 opponents and became the state's first nonwhite governor since Reconstruction, decades after his parents moved to the state from India to pursue the American dream.

Jindal, a 36-year-old Republican, will be the nation's youngest governor. He had 53 percent with 625,036 votes with about 92 percent of the vote tallied. It was more than enough to win Saturday's election outright and avoid a Nov. 17 runoff.

Come, my friends. 'Tis not too late to seek a newer world -- Tennyson

…………

the cost

WASHINGTON -- The FBI is quietly reconstructing the cases against Khalid Shaikh Mohammed and 14 other accused Al Qaeda leaders being held at Guantanamo Bay, Cuba, spurred in part by U.S. concerns that years of CIA interrogation have yielded evidence that is inadmissible or too controversial to present at their upcoming war crimes tribunals, government officials familiar with the probes said.

The process is an embarrassment for the Bush administration, which for years held the men incommunicado overseas and allowed the CIA to use coercive means to extract information from them that would not be admissible in a U.S. court of law -- and might not be allowed in their military commissions, some former officials and legal experts said. Even if the information from the CIA interrogations is allowed, they said, it would probably risk focusing the trials on the actions of the agency and not the accused.

The FBI investigations, involving as many as 300 agents and analysts in a "Guantanamo task force," have been underway for as long as two years. They were requested by the Defense Department shortly after legal rulings indicated that Mohammed -- the self-proclaimed mastermind of the Sept. 11 terrorist attacks -- and the other Al Qaeda suspects probably would win some form of trial in which evidence would have to be presented, according to senior federal law enforcement officials.

source

I came. I saw. I posted.
Veni, Vidi, Bitchy.

…………

It suprises you that the government would seek ...

independent and corroborating evidence to support their cases against these individuals as well as evidence to enhance the information gain directly from these individuals?

That doesn't surprise me at all. In fact I assume that these types of investigations (i.e. where the government follows-up on leads provided by people that they have interrogated) occur all the time. If they don't, well we should complain about their lack of due diligence, right?

Republican Maverick at Large
-4:Strongly Disagree; 0:Meh; +4:Strongly Agree

………… parent

Hysterical blindness on your part

The government has to throw out all the information acquired through interrogation because of the same torture you defend. Now they are forced to make a mad scramble to prove a cold case or a number of terrorists are going to walk free.

That's the cost of the policy you support.

I came. I saw. I posted.
Veni, Vidi, Bitchy.

………… parent

Made up BS on your part.

I don't defend torture. There was no torture that required defending ... not that I would if there was. The claims of torture are all fabrications which were made up for political gain. Nothing more. Leftist political spin, if you will.

As for investigating the terrorists further, how often do prosecutors go into a trial with nothing but the statements of the accused? That's just bogus on its face. They always conduct investigations to gather as much evidence as possible. They also conduct investigations to corroborate the statements of the accused as well as other witnesses. To claim otherwise is just silly.

 

Republican Maverick at Large
-4:Strongly Disagree; 0:Meh; +4:Strongly Agree

………… parent

Torture

There was no torture that required defending ...

The evidence is inadmissable. So much for your claims of no torture.

I came. I saw. I posted.
Veni, Vidi, Bitchy.

………… parent

Activist judges.

Just wanted to post it before GoRight.

If you really believe this is the "fight of our lives," how come you're not in Iraq?

………… parent

That's your point, not mine. That doesn't even apply here.

Republican Maverick at Large
-4:Strongly Disagree; 0:Meh; +4:Strongly Agree

………… parent

The evidence IS admissable, you're wrong.

As I just pointed out using quotes from you own reference you are full of crap on this point. There are plenty of legitimate reasons for holding an independent investigation besides your faux contention of inadmissibility. They mention in the article that the CIA guys may still testify, so much for your claims of torture.

Republican Maverick at Large
-4:Strongly Disagree; 0:Meh; +4:Strongly Agree

………… parent

Um, the reason they are doing further investigation...

... is written right in the subhead of the article cited:

The U.S. is concerned that evidence obtained from CIA interrogations will be inadmissible at war-crimes tribunals.

Now, what are you blathering on about?

If you really believe this is the "fight of our lives," how come you're not in Iraq?

………… parent

Um, the reason stated in the sub head of the article

is left wing bloviating from the LA Times.

God, you are SOO predictable.

Republican Maverick at Large
-4:Strongly Disagree; 0:Meh; +4:Strongly Agree

………… parent

Oh, I see...

Some went to FBI Director Robert S. Mueller III, according to the former bureau officials. They said Mueller pulled many of the agents back from playing even a supporting role in the interrogations to avoid exposing them to legal jeopardy, in the belief that White House and Justice Department opinions authorizing the coercive techniques might be overturned.

"Those guys were using techniques that we didn't even want to be in the room for," one senior federal law enforcement official said. "The CIA determined they were going to torture people, and we made the decision not to be involved."

If you really believe this is the "fight of our lives," how come you're not in Iraq?

………… parent

Undoubtedly an Democrat federal law enforcment official.

Left wing spin.  Besides, that's a quote from the FBI who was having their toes tromped on by the CIA taking over everything.  Find me a quote from the CIA where they corroborate that view (i.e. that they decided to engage in torture).

Not a credible quote. 

Republican Maverick at Large
-4:Strongly Disagree; 0:Meh; +4:Strongly Agree

………… parent

Heh-heh.

The only quotes that are "credible" agree with your point of view.

I get it.

If you really believe this is the "fight of our lives," how come you're not in Iraq?

………… parent

God, you are SOO predictable.

I generally don't even read your references anymore, at least not for a while. Everything I have said to defend this point thus far was based solely on knowing how you operate. I finally decided to read the reference to see how well I had done based on nothing bu knowing you modus operandi. Here's what I found.

The FBI is especially interested in Mohammed, who during the more than three years he spent in CIA custody boasted that he had killed Wall Street Journal reporter Daniel Pearl and orchestrated more than two dozen other terrorist plots. Several senior counter-terrorism officials said they believed that Mohammed falsely confessed to some things, including the Pearl slaying, under duress or to obscure the roles played by operatives who might still be on the loose.

Hmm, well then, THIS sounds like something we bettergo back and try to corroborate, eh? Just like I said.

The FBI's efforts appear in part to be a hedge in case the commissions are ruled unconstitutional or never occur, or the U.S. military detention center at Guantanamo Bay is closed. Under those scenarios, authorities would have to free the detainees, transfer them to military custody elsewhere, send them to another country or have enough evidence gathered by law enforcement officials to charge them with terrorism in U.S. federal courts, some current and former counter-terrorism officials and legal experts said.

Hmm. Well that seems pretty reasonable to me. Be ready to present the evidence in the case of a public trial in U.S. Federal Courts? Why would that prompted additional information gathering? Who knows?

Special Agent Richard Kolko, an FBI spokesman, said the investigations were a natural outgrowth of a long-standing interagency effort. "The FBI will support the prosecution of KSM and other high-value detainees by making its investigative and evidentiary expertise available to the prosecution team," he said. He referred all other questions to the Defense Department.

Oh, I guess Special Agent Richard Kolko does. This sounds a lot like what I was saying, doesn't it? :)

FBI officials interviewed for this article emphasized that the bureau's probes should not be viewed as a repudiation of the CIA's efforts, noting that the spy agency's primary responsibility has been to gather intelligence to prevent further attacks, not collect evidence for trial.

Interesting. The FBI officials directly involved with the investigation have one thing to say, you and the Amnesty International guy are, predictably, on the opposite page form that. And you wonder why people think you don't support the United States?

"They have put themselves in a very bad situation here," the former agent said. "They have to redo everything because they have to come up with clean statements from these [detainees], if they can get them, obtained by law enforcement people who can actually testify. The CIA agents are not going to testify, nor should they."

Ah, and here we get to the real crux of the matter. Protecting the identities of active CIA operatives. Obtaining independent testimony from independent investigators.

Some former FBI officials and legal analysts said that even if evidence gathered through the CIA interrogations were admissible, it had lost significant credibility because of the allegations of coercion and torture.

Allegations which, of course, come straight from Democrat mouths.

CIA officials have said that they never tortured the detainees and that they operated within the law.

Like I said, no torture. Allegations to the contrary are mere fabrications.

Musa of Amnesty International said: "People like KSM should be held accountable. And the real tragedy would be that the focus of the commissions won't be on scrutinizing the conduct of Mohammed and the others, but on the conduct of the CIA."

Primarily because that is where the Democrats will put it for partisan reasons.

Federal law enforcement officials believe they have gathered enough admissible evidence to try the high-value detainees. "We've redone everything, and everything is fine," one official said. "So what's the harm?"

Well said.

Republican Maverick at Large
-4:Strongly Disagree; 0:Meh; +4:Strongly Agree

………… parent

Um, why did you not use this part?

Some went to FBI Director Robert S. Mueller III, according to the former bureau officials. They said Mueller pulled many of the agents back from playing even a supporting role in the interrogations to avoid exposing them to legal jeopardy, in the belief that White House and Justice Department opinions authorizing the coercive techniques might be overturned.

"Those guys were using techniques that we didn't even want to be in the room for," one senior federal law enforcement official said. "The CIA determined they were going to torture people, and we made the decision not to be involved."

And note that the comments did not come "straight from Democratic mouths" as you assert, but, rather, from "one senior federal law enforcement official."

But nice try, anyway.

If you really believe this is the "fight of our lives," how come you're not in Iraq?

………… parent

Um, why did you guys not use my quotes the first time around?

Besides, we already know YOUR side of the story. My post was pointing out all of the things YOU GUYS didn't use the first time around. Why not?

Your question already addressed here:

Undoubtedly an Democrat federal law enforcment official.

Republican Maverick at Large
-4:Strongly Disagree; 0:Meh; +4:Strongly Agree

………… parent