School Shootings here in the United States vs. Dr. Phil:

Important topic. - Promoted by Specter

Although I don't normally watch the TV program, "Dr. Phil", today's program about the school shootings, especially the more recent ones in Cleveland and in Crandon, WI, sounded interesting, so I decided to tune in today's "Dr. Phil" program for the heck of it.

Among the guests on today's program were a criminal profiler/author and the authors of a couple of books about the supposed psychology of the shooters and so on. Now for the points of my essay:

The shooting that took place in a small town in Wisconsin called Crandon, where seven youngsters were having a slumber party was incredibly horrific, as were all the other school shootings. Six of the seven youngsters were killed, the other critically wounded.

As it turned out in this case, the shooter was not a teenager but a 20-year-old sheriff Deputy, who'd been dumped by his girlfriend. The Cleveland school shooter was a youngster in his mid-teens.

The Columbine, the Virginia Tech shootings and some other school shooting sprees were also mentioned and compared. One thing that was found to be a common denominator was this: All of the shooters had been bullied/humiliated in some way or other in school during the course of their lives. They were young white males who'd undergone changes in relationships, a fall in status, or had had major failures/setbacks at some points in their lives. While they acted and looked like average students, they ere often somewhat more withdrawn or high-strung than average students. The Virginia Tech shooter had constantly railed against "rich kids". Many, if not most of the shooters had told others about their plans to shoot up other people, i. e. classmates or teachers. Some had even written fictional stories about students gunning down teachers, classmates, etc.

The criminal profiler on the program, who was also an author, pointed out the decline of the "nuclear" family (i. e. Mother, father, sister and brother), the shooters' troubled pasts, and the constand pressures that kids in today's society are put under. At the end of the program, the following conclusion was reached: The violent culture of America is a contributing factor, and, yet, during the program, Dr. Phil kept asking the foillowing questions to parents, shooting survivors, a pastor, and even friends/loved ones of the shooting victims: Is there a way to spot a potential school shooter?
Are there warning signs? Is there a way to stop a school shooting before it starts?

From the random drive-by shootings that are an all-too frequent occurrence in many poor urban areas, to the school shootings, to family, friend and neighbor disputes that ultimately result in permanent maiming or murder due to the presence of guns, it seems that things are defintely out of control. That being said, I firmly believe that Dr. Phil and his guests on today's program seemed totally oblivious to and failed to address another big problem in our society and culture: Our society and culture has long been dependent upon and revolved around the gun, and what we're presently witnessing is the net result of this gun dependency.

Imho, there are far too many guns here in the United States, which has the highest murder rate by guns per capita in the Western world. For the past several decades, the omnipotent Gun Lobby and the NRA have affectively bullied lawmakers out of passing more effective gun laws and strengthen the ones we already have. This being said, the following questions must be asked:

A) Why is the number of firearms manufactured here in the United States every year not regulated?

B) Why are there not more extensive, thorough screenings of prospective gun buyers, background checks and waiting periods implemented?

C) Why do people with mental health issues, anger-management issues, or histories of drug/alcohol abuse and addictions continue to get access to firearms and why are such people not denied access when their name(s) come up on a gun dealer's computer screen?

I've come to the following conclusions, which were reinforced by watching today's episode of Dr. Phil:

I believe that there are many troubled kids and young adults out in our society and in the world at large who, for whatever reason, do end up falling through the cracks and don't get the necesary help that they need until a crisis erupts and than it's too late. I believe that, given the fact that there are many, many troubled kids/ young adults who've gone through a tumultous life ( i. e. bullying & humiliation, troubled homes, anger towards classmates, families or teachers, etc., who do not go out and maim/kill other people. It's not always possible to predict who will or will not engage in a heihous crime such as a school shooting, or whatever and maim/kill other people.

Another couple of examples of when people have not been able to spot whether or not a person(s) will commit a heinous crime such as a shooting, assault, etc., took place at one of Boston's toughest high schools, which was situated in a tough white workingclass sectioni of Boston roughtly 30 years ago. The controversy over mandated school busing in Boston was still at its height, and Boston was roiling with racial tensions and hostilities, that had arisen, at least in part, as a spin-off of mandated school busing.

One such example was a white student from that particular white workingclass neighborhood of Boston at that particular high school, who was involved in the horrific attack on an African-American attorney on his way to a meeting at Boston's City Hall. Due to serious injuries, the attorney had to be rushed to the hospital. This was particularly shocking to the teacher whoi'd had this particular white student in one of her classes, especially since he'd been a member of the high school's racially integrated basketball team and had never, ever shown the least bit of racial anger or animosity.

The other example was an African-American student who was a student at the same high school, who was at this particular high school under Federal District Judge W. Arthur Garrity's mandated school busing program. He'd also been in one of this particular teacher's classes and had never shown any signs whatsoever of racial anger or animosity. The African-American student had crouched down behind a car with a baseball bat near a convenience store in the neighborhood in which he resided. He'd smashed a baseball bat over the head of an unsuspecting white suburbanite who'd stopped in the convenience store to purchase some cigarettes, fracturing the white guy's skull.
The victim of the baseball bat attack died in a city hospital several hours later of his injuries.

In both of these instances, nobody, including the teacher who'd had both of them as students, had thought that either the white workingclass kid who'd attacked the African-American attorney on his way to Boston's City hall with the American flag, or the African-American student who'd bludgeoned an unsuspecting suburban white guy to death with a baseball bat, would partake of such acts.

However, going back to the school shootings and also the two antagonizers at this particular Boston high school many years ago, here are some other questions that must be sked, which Dr. Phil and his program guests faild to accress: Is there something about the kinds of environments that the perpetrators of these horrific acts have been raised up in, or, in our society in general that makes some people prone to committing these horrible acts?

Is there something lacking in their family upbringing that's also a contributing factor? What about a person's inner psychic/psychological make-up? Does the fact that there's so much inequality, racial/ethnic/socioeconomic/religious differences prejudice(s) in our society at large also contribute to these kinds of horrific events? Is it possible that, in the case of the school shooting sprees, the drive-by shootings, etc., in poor urban areas, as well as shootings that result from disputes among people who know each other, the presence of too many guns here in America contributes heavily to this situation?

These are important questions that were sorely lacking in today's program, especially the issue that there are too many guns here in the United States of America. However, I've also reached my own conclusion: the firm belief that all of the above-mentioned factors together have contributed to and lead to the creation of this volatile situation.

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Tough topic, and one

that will never have an answer, since by nature school shooters tend to be people who fall through the cracks: you might find a way to patch those particular cracks, but there will always be others. What irks me about Dr. Phil and other people who want to 'solve' the problem is that they don't take into account how exceptional school shooters are: it's an extremely rare phenomenon, so attempts to place the blame on any global quality that millions of other children share strikes me as extremely misguided.

Which leads me to my criticism of your diary: I'm no defender of gun culture, and I think the 2nd amendment has been interpreted far too liberally given its text, but I'm not sure I agree that this is the major factor: we've had much higher gun availability in the past (registration is a relatively recent phenomenon) and a lower rate of shootings. The major difference between then and now is gun technology: I'd imagine shooting up a college would have been much harder with a musket. But I don't see how our attitude towards gun availability is any different now than 100, 200 years ago?

I don't have any better solutions, by the way.

Saint, n. A dead sinner revised and edited. - Ambrose Bierce

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Thanks for your input, pico.

It's that Dr. Phil isn't totally trustworthy. I think the fact that he failed to address
the fact that there is so much prejudice of all kinds in our society at large, as well as the fact that our gun-dependent culture has also contributed a great deal to the situation that has led up to the school shootings.

Again, as you've pointed out, pico, the attitude towards guns has been deeply ingrained in the very fabric of our society and culture since day one, inotherwords, since this country's founding, and, unfortunately, that, coupled with the newer, more dangerous gun technology, has come home to roost.

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Agreed on Dr. Phil -

there's something about the guy that totally creeps me out, but I wonder if it's just because he's that myopic. He really thinks he can heal the world with a hug, regardless of the causes and contexts of the issues he's going after. Blech.

Saint, n. A dead sinner revised and edited. - Ambrose Bierce

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Dr. Phil does have a rather simplistic, simple-minded outlook.

"He really thinks he can heal the world with a hug, regardless of the causes and contexts of the issues he's going after. Blech."

The above-mentioned quote from your latest post says it all in a nutshell, pico.
It's reminiscent of a lot of the attitudes that were pervasive in the 1960's--totally unrealistic--that only lots of love would cure what was going on. That is a big shortcoming of Dr. Phil, imo.

There are things that definitely need healing, but big hugs aren't going to do it, especially things that have such complex causes, such as the recent school shootings.

Dr. Phil is either quite myopic, naive, or both.

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Love, love, love!

Imagine Rosalind Russell sayting the above:

"Love, love, love."

Are you saying that love isn't all we need?

I agree that Dr. Phil can't heal the world with hugs. Only Leo Buscaglia could do that. The Rosalind Russell image is how a friend of mine encapsulated Buscaglia's ideas. Leo, unlike Dr. Phil, could seem to make it work.

We would say that we should treat everyone like we do babies. We pay attention to them. When a baby comes into the room, everything stops for a moment as we look to the baby, fuss over it, maybe kiss it.

Is there any cost to following Buscaglia's advice?

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Fat chance, Madscientist.

"We would say that we should treat everyone like we do babies. We pay attention to them. When a baby comes into the room, everything stops for a moment as we look to the baby, fuss over it, maybe kiss it.
Is there any cost to following Buscaglia's advice?"

Hmmmm......I really don't think so, Madscientist. Chances are that one of us tried to hug/kiss a gun-toting criminal, or whoever, that we might or might not live to tell the tale, if one can get the drift.

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Dr. Phil

My fiancee told me that the first thing one of her psychology professors told her was that if anyone in the class watched Dr. Phil, they should stop doing so immediately. Apparently he does the exact opposite of what counselors are trained to do.

I never broke the law; I am the law! -- George W. Bush Judge Dredd
I'm listening to...

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Yes, Dr. Bob

on the old Bob Newhart Show was a much better model.

One great exchange, demonstrating Unconditional Positive Regard, great listening skills, and a general open and non-judgmental attitude went something like this, when a long time patient has a momentous announcement:

Patient: Dr. Hartley, I haven't been completely honest with you.

Hartley: Ok.....

Pt: I'm not really Jack Stinerman, like i told you...

Hartley: I see....

Pt: I feel I must come clean with you, Dr. Hartley..

Hartley: OK....g-go ahead....

Pt: I'm really Zerbizex, and i come from the planet Sychiaban.

Hartley: (suitable pause).....G-g-g-going to be here for a while?

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Somehow, these TV doctors are difficult to trust, and Dr. Phil

is no exception. It seems to me that a lot of these talk-show hosts, including Dr. Phil, are out to take advantage of and make a fast buck on a lot of people's backs.

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